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Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by B J Booth on Oct 31st, 2005, 1:51pm

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Post by Kan on Oct 31st, 2005, 2:20pm

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WEM TOWN HALL GHOST, 1995
Tony O'Rahilly photographed a fire at Wem Town Hall in Shropshire, on 19 November 1995, and found what appears to be a ghostly girl on one of the photographs (enlargement of figure shown here). Links have been suggested with a fire which gutted Wem in 1677, caused by a young girl accidentally setting fire to a thatched roof with a candle.



Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Oct 31st, 2005, 2:29pm

This will be one of those areas that will make me shiver! smiley
I had memorable experiences in a house that I lived in while growing up in New Orleans. My mother and I were the only ones who saw/heard anything. We tried waking other people in our respective bedrooms, however they didn't wake. It was a house we rented and learned had previously been some kind of church. At night there were footsteps walking down the hallway from the front to the back. It was a long narrow and dark hallway. We had the house checked by police and ladlord and my Dad. We searched high and low hoping someone had been getting into the other side that was boarded up, but no evidence was found. I can remember one night inparticular. Somehow my om who was at the back end of the hallway knew I was awake and terrified. I heard her say, Linda just close your eeys and keep them closed, don't look. We listened for I don't know how long to the footsteps and then I heard them stop in my room. I could feel someone in there, and I kept hitting at my sister nearbly while keeping my head under the covers. She didn't even flich!
Then I heard it walk back down the hallway. Next thing I knew it was morning.
We only stayed in that house two months. My mom told my dad it was a bad place and if he didn't move us she would.!
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by B J Booth on Oct 31st, 2005, 3:14pm

Sounds like a very frightening experience.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by oljack666 on Oct 31st, 2005, 4:03pm



HA! I'ld take a ghost any day. Wanna trade for extra terrestrial or 4 of them better yet.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by blueyes on Oct 31st, 2005, 4:43pm

yikes, Linda that would scare the heck outta me! New Orleans has some old history and legends

Way back in the younger days me and a male friend decided to go romping through a 1800's church/graveyard. This guy was a beast I tell you! It was a fall evening when the leaves were all dying which made the old church seem even more dead then it was. Old cast iron fence around the graveyard even gave it a more spooky feeling. We approached the old church and the doors were unlocked and lights were on, though no one was in...... as we proceeded to walk through the graveyard, spooking each other out, we heard a rustle along the tombstones, and as big friend pushes Debbie who landed on the ground he ran away leaving me by myselfI couldn't believe my eyes that this big hulk was so scared that he pulled me behind him to run away. lol! Needless to say I was spooked out being left behind.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Oct 31st, 2005, 5:04pm

My older sister did that to me too.....cruel things kids do.
I have a lot of scary things that happened to my mom and myself. I am still uncomfortable near the old graveyards in New Orleans.
So many of them were broken down and open after the years that it made even more firghtening to see. We even have a voodoo queen buried in one of them. I am not sure how they fared in Katrina, but I will have to check sometime because that is where the family is buried.
Anyway, this is going to be a fun discussion place and it will have many interesting topics I am sure.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Nwest on Nov 1st, 2005, 06:29am

Well hello again.. I made this reply last nite and thought it posted but it must not have, obviously I did something wrong.. argh.. sorry bout that.!!
The forum on ghosts that Noc and I will be doing will be alot of fun, there are alot of things out there that we can't explain like EVP's, hauntings, Poltergeists, and alot more.
I think that some people are psychic which lets them see what someone else can't see.
How lucky Creolelady is to live in such a beautiful state !!
I am going to put a story about Marie the voodoo queen which is who I think she was talking about when she mentioned the cemetary. That woman was very powerful and for a black woman to be that powerful in the slave days was amazing.. People were afraid of her.
I am very glad that BJ is letting us do this, I think this will be alot of fun, and we can learn alot about each other doing it. Like Creolelady lives in a killer state and now im jealous.. wink
I have a terrible cold that I caught from my six year old, seems she doesn't mind not wearing a coat and now I will pay the price.. ha.. so forgive me if it takes me a day or two too get back good.. but I will be back better very soon so I can read everything.
This is a great forum, the people are close like at my other forum.. I think thats important when you want to have fun and learn about things. Thanks for having us. grin Ms Creolelady I will start that story for you right now about Marie.. before I go into a coma from my daughters cold.. wink
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Nov 1st, 2005, 4:47pm

I don't live in New Orelans anymore, but all my family still does (well displaced right now though) I married and left, but we go a few times a year to visit home. That will have to change for awhile I guess.
My eight year old was very sick yesterday and is hoarse today. And of course, I am getting hoarse and sniffly too. The gifts our children bless us with eh? smiley
I sure hope you feel better quickly. This is an interesting section and I am so thankful BJ put it in.
I had many many "strange" experiences growing up. My sister (here since Katrina) and I were going over some of them last night. I did ask her why she never woke up all those times I was hitting her and whispering her name. She never knew anything happened, and I never shared any of it till last night. Many things only my mom knew, and many, not even she knew.

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by blueyes on Nov 1st, 2005, 5:01pm

Oh Nwest I hope you both recover, its awful being sick and can't wait to read your posts grin

Look forward Creolady to sitting back and reading more!

You take care and lots of rest Nwest

Deb
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by B J Booth on Nov 1st, 2005, 11:03pm

This Board is sure looking good! I'll get back soon and do some more reading.

thanks,

B J

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by blueyes on Nov 18th, 2005, 9:03pm

This one is pretty well in the family.......

My mother was 13 years of age, she was staying with her grandparents in Toronto for whatever reason, in those days families struggled with work and hectic hours and low pay, and in those days in the early 50's most grandparents raised their grandchildren lets say. Okay so here my mother spent a majority of her life with my grandparents who lived in the core of Toronto, Beach Avenue. Where her parents were at the time I am not sure, as everytime I question her about this period she cries where not around.

The story begins as my mother as a young girl slept in a room with two single beds (I also slept in the same room and remember it), my great grandmother slept in the other twin bed. My mother was awoken at some point in the night by a call of her name 'Carol' , as my great grandmother layed in the next bed (who she herself was sensitive in words) my mother asked her if she heard anything, and my great grandmother replied yes, and got up from bed to check the house in case someone was fooling around. Again my mother heard her name called shortly afterwards and saw her father standing at the end of her bed and saw him walk towards the window of the room and vanish. Within minutes the phone rang and the news was not good. My grandfather had parished in a scoba diving accident and had parished. To this day his body had never been found. Since then my mother has three dreams in a row prior to if one departs within the family, I have been witness to this many times, to hear her crying in her room and no more than two - three days later the Ontario Provincial Police show up at our door as a child to hear words of a relative deceased. There was a history that would take some time tell, and only learned not so long ago because of my experiences and found out. Call it a sixth sense, though back then there wasnt' the web ect to connect with others and share. Have my own stories, but though to share this one.

Its alot different from my experiences, though the sixth sense I can vouch for when it works it works, it doesn't all the time. Its funny some people think if you have a sixth sense you know everything and sense everything but you don't. It hits you when it decides to and cant explain it. Sometimes its strong and sometimes its weak.

Deb
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Nov 18th, 2005, 9:10pm

Oh my Deb! Shiver shiver from me. How did you r Mom feel about this?


I have a family one too, although it use to really upset me. May need to excuse the typos though okay?

My mother's cousin was sent to Korea and was last seen going up Pork Chop Hill on Korea. He is to this day listed as MIA. Only his wallet and some tron photos were found scattered around.
Well, the house his family lived in was long ago right next to where my godmother and grandmother lived. The lady who had a house built there came over and was telling the family she kept seeing a yong man walking through the house. They showed her a photo of Willie and the lady was shocked and upset and said that was the person who had been walking through her house. The lady said he looked as though he was looking for someone. She described where he walked in each room. Turns out she wouldd see him walk from what had been his room to where his mother's room was. The lady said one day she told him that his mother was not there anymore and she never saw him again. She said she felt like he needed to know.

Send shivers down my spine!

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by blueyes on Nov 18th, 2005, 9:30pm

Linda, thankyou for sharing this, and I believe that somehow our ufo experience disconnected with our family history, sensing ect.. Walking spirits not departing from this world, or who may be connected to us. Though I don't know or understand these spirits, life forces. We know man and women contain life forces, some of us here connect in different ways and understand unlike because we maybe posses those skills already. Some can recognize and see patterns of magnectic energy or physical beings, or sense them in our surroudings. I still have not been able to connect through spiritual ways, and thats' what fascinates me, its or they are there no matter what religon text or your belief. Spirit and energy is still there and they are forgiving.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Nov 21st, 2005, 5:50pm

This story gives a different spin to "Ghosts that go bump in the night!"

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=29&art_id=qw1132393684381B254
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by blueyes on Nov 24th, 2005, 09:40am

Whoa! Linda! most men would consider themselves lucky lol!

Though that would scare the begievers out of me!

Deb
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by duneguy on Dec 26th, 2005, 07:06am

I found some GREAT ghost links here ....... some are really eye-opening !! :

http://www.ghostfiles.org/
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Dec 26th, 2005, 6:56pm

Thanks duneguy! More to send chills down our spines! shocked
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Jan 23rd, 2006, 8:12pm

We need to get some more mpostings in this section.
C'mon people submit your articles and stories for all to read. smiley
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Easternbluestar on Mar 3rd, 2006, 11:13pm

There is a psychic-medium here in Nova Scotia by name of Alan Hatfield that has done extensive work in gathering sounds from spirits and does alot of medium work in connecting family members to deceased relatives. Many that were skeptical of his ability, leave his shows and demonstrations no longer skeptical, but being an avid believer that this person has special abilities.

Here is a link to his web site and the sounds he has gathered, including from Titanic victims.

http://www.alanhatfield.com/voices.html

You be your own judge?

Easternbluestar
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Karen on Mar 4th, 2006, 9:29pm

I couldn't read this and not include this story. This was back in 1989. I was in Tennessee and lived in a rural area. One night I'd come home from work and was starting dinner when I heard this radio playing. I listened to it for a while and then went around the house looking for it.

I checked the tv, stereo, radios..you name it. Nothing was on. But I kept hearing this radio playing on and it sounded like an old time radio show. I could make out the tune and beats to old time gospel songs. I just couldn't make out the words.

This when on about a week and even my daughter who was 11 and the time and my step-son, age 12, told me they could hear it too.

It continued for about a month and then just disappeared as quickly as it appeared. That's another one my daughter and I talk about now. I tried to think of a lot of explanations. I thought that maybe we were picking up a powerful station form Nashville or something, but you'd have had to hear it it. It sounded old and dated. It was just strange.

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by oljack666 on Mar 4th, 2006, 9:46pm


I would be sitting at my computer at home and the place is dead silent. No traffic, nothing. My daughter was asleep and I heard music. I could hear what sounded like a talk show and then I heard music. I could hear the music but I couldn't make out the songs. There was a single radio or television on in my home anywhere. I would get up and walk around and try and figure it out but it would just drive me nuts so I went back to work. While sitting there it would start up again. Never figured it out.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Karen on Mar 4th, 2006, 9:59pm

You know, in the hum forum today we are talking about biological differences between hearers and no-hearers. That is very reasonable and acceptable.

It could be that the same type of mechanism that allows some people to hear the hum, could also cause some people to hear captured sound waves.

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Ashiana24 on Aug 21st, 2006, 1:51pm

Deb said:

"Its alot different from my experiences, though the sixth sense I can vouch for when it works it works, it doesn't all the time. Its funny some people think if you have a sixth sense you know everything and sense everything but you don't. It hits you when it decides to and cant explain it. Sometimes its strong and sometimes its weak."

Yes, and many times(usually) if you're psychic, your powers don't help you personally. In other words, you can't tell things about yourself or help yourself, but you're able to help other people. What a bad deal, huh?

http://ashiana.conforums.com/index.cgi

~ Ashiana

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Aug 21st, 2006, 2:06pm

I believe that it can helps us when we might be in danger. If we are listening to our intuition, we can really sense when someone is either lying to us or wishes harm or things like that. I think sometimes we expect something as forceful as a loud audible voice to tell us things, or something as forceful as a slap in the face.. I don't think it always comes like that, it is at times much more sublte. Ya' know that nagging little voice that says "watch out, or be careful." Or the kind of butterfly feeling you get in your tummy, or even feeling like the hair on your body is standing up on you r neck. Most people brush this off as coincidence, but I trust those intuitive impressions I get most of the times. They have literally saved my neck a few times, and when I have listened to those feelings, I have usually been sorry that I didn't.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Ashiana24 on Aug 21st, 2006, 2:18pm

Yes, my intuition has also helped me many times in the past. I'll just get a feeling that something isn't right, and this is oftentimes accompanied by feelings of nausea in my solar plexus. I was almost abducted once when I was a teen, and this intuition, I feel, saved my life. undecided

http://ashiana.conforums.com/index.cgi

~ Ashiana
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Aug 21st, 2006, 7:48pm

I know what you mean. I had some pretty close calls in my life, and several times I was forewarned and was able to think clearly when I needed to.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Ashiana24 on Aug 21st, 2006, 11:33pm

I would say that's one of our biggest defense abilities we all have, if we would only listen to that little voice inside us.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by AJC on Dec 11th, 2006, 10:43am

My great grandmother was a spirit medium. She used to tell everybody that there are no ghosts of dead people(the bible confirms that), but there is a spirit world that tries to convince others that they are "spirits of the dead" But my Great grandmother would have a spirit(not a spirit of a dead person) named RED LEAF, who would tell her where to find things for people, be it objects lost, people lost or even help the police find missing persons and even tell events from other dimensions........that is what ghosts are....spirits from other dimensions, not of the dead. they are part of Satans army not of the dead. Remember what the bible said about Lucifer.........HE was a liar and a trickster trying to call what is bad good and what is good bad and was thrown out of heaven and now trying to deceive the whole world.........do not be afraid of the dead......be afraid of the living GOD who has power over everything even Satans dominion..
Ghosts, ufo occupants, and evil spirits are ALL RELATED in the same group..........they act the same and do things the same and even look the same from time to time. Through all of humanity they have been one and the same......deceiving people, beleive me I know I have been fighting these "other dimensinonal " entities all my life.......but YAHWEH has all ways been there beside me when I call HIS NAME.........People pray to JESUS........Yet that is not what Yeshua(Jesus) said.
He said to his disciples, "Whatever you ASK THE FATHER, YAHWEH, in my name, He will do for you." So who do you pray to.........Jesus father and do it in the ransom death of the one who YAHWEH sent to die for you and me.......Yeshua(Hebrew for JESUS)
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by jordy on Dec 23rd, 2007, 8:50pm

Hi People,
My first house was haunted. My husband went to Army drill one weekend soon after we moved in. I was sitting in the livingroom watching T.V. on a friday night when the back door slammed and I heard footsteps going through the kitchen. I thought my husband didn't make it to drill and came home. When he didn't exit the kitchen I got up to investigate. No one was there and the door was locked.
Several months later on our aniversary we stopped by the house to freshen up before going back out. I stepped out of the bathroom to find him siting in the rocker with a baseball bat. I laughed.
I told the ghost months before that he could stay if he didn't mess with the knives in the kitchen. I didn't have any problems with him but the rest of my family had a hard time. My Daughter says it yelled at her one morning to get back in bed. Both my young sons refused to play in the playroom. The dog would go in there and bark at the wall. My husband did a lot of remodling and would lose tools that he was sure he set beside him. He never could find these tools either.
After the house was remodled my husband said we were moving. I objected but he said he couldn't live there. I am not sure if more happened to him but he gets wide eyed when the subject is brought up.
Anacondas
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s0lar on Mar 5th, 2008, 9:16pm

I'm unsure where to post this as I'm new here but this seemed as good a place as any. I'm an open minded person but I am also very skeptical.. show me proof that I cannot explain by conventional means.

So here's what happened last night.

My oldest son was heading upstairs and stopped to talk with me, a few minutes into our talk we heard something hit the stairs and my son immediately lifted his arm to see what had hit him. He walked over to me and showed me what looked like a wad of clear fluid on his forearm and we found another small pool on the stairs beside where he had been standing. Now it was storming here pretty heavily so my first assumption was that we had sprung a leak.. but there was no indication of any water leaking from our top floor.. nor are there any windows, cracks, rooms directly above..

Of course at this time I'm still assuming it's water but after reinspecting the puddle on the stairs and rethinking the pool on my sons arm I realized it's slightly thicker than water, almost like saliva. We have no pets and only my younger son was upstairs (2 floors up) and sound asleep. Our house is 100yrs old and creaky floors. If my younger son had managed to drop a wad of spit that large down 2 floors through a narrow area it would be nearly impossible for him to sneak back down the hall back into bed unheard. Has anyone heard of any similar occurances? My house is normally pretty quiet with short bouts of "activity" but this fluid from out of nowhere has me stumped
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Mar 5th, 2008, 9:46pm

Hi sOlar and welcome to Casebook! Your post is interesting and several things come to mind. And several questions as well. I'll start with the questions.

You say your house is pretty normal with short "bouts" of activity. Do you sense its haunted? Have you ever seen a spirit or felt one? Anything strange ever happen with electronic devices? Televisions etc?
Has either child ever talked about ghosts or imaginary friends? Did your son come from the kitchen? Is it possible the fluid came from there?

I'm sure you'll see someone here say it was a spirits ectoplasm. It could be although I've never seen it outside of movies. Like the "He slimed me!" scene from GhostBusters. The fact it was storming is pretty interesting. I've heard spirits can drain energy from batteries so its possible they could draw energy from lighting. I say possible I've never heard of that happening before. I'm just throwing that out there.

Since your house is 100 years old it probably does have at least some limited spirit activity. My house is 19 years old and has some from time to time. My gut feeling is your house may be haunted to a degree but the liquid is from something in your house. Maybe something stuck to your childs shirt and melted as he talked to you. When he felt it it dislodged and fell on the steps. This is only a guess on my part but I'd love to hear about any strange stories about your house. Good luck finding the answers! Dan
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s0lar on Mar 5th, 2008, 10:35pm

cheesy My house has some strange vibes, but it's not consistant. My children have reported shadows, hearing footsteps etc. My youngest has been very interesting to watch though. Normally he'll go up and down the stairs without hesitating but every so often he'll come flying down the stairs (or even stop half way up) and tell me he doesn't like 'that man'. The youngest has been reporting since the age of 1 and (early talker)

We've had incidents of the deadbolt on the front door locking itself (usually locking one of us out). Every so often I get a strong feeling of not being alone, although the main floor feels "vacant"... my eyes will be continuously drawn to the top of the staircase. Months will pass without any of those feelings of being watched and when it seems to be starting up again I tell "it/them" to knock it off and behave (silly perhaps but it seems to work for my mind lol)

All in all no one has felt directly threatened, although I can freely admit there are times when I've felt menaced. I just wonder sometimes if it's my imagination as this happens with every house I've lived in... things are fine for a few months and then it's like something else moves in..

my last place had issues, my 7 yr old would have dreams and would talk out loud during them. One night specifically he was going on about 'the man' and how the man wanted the remote lol. It struck me as odd because I had been having problems with my brand new tv ( volume would go up and down on its own, channels would flip, it would turn itself on after you turned it off etc) TV problems disappeared after we moved out. This is the child who clearly saw a spirit at the hospital one day, but that's another story.

funny how my mind tries to rationalize and minimize these situations after things calm down a bit

and no there is no way the oldest had it on his arm prior, he had been sitting on the couch reading and was headed for bed.. we heard it hit the stairs pretty hard (loud enough to stop us both talking instantly)and had been talking for a good 5 minutes prior. The storm was a winter storm with strong winds, ice pellets and snow.. no lightning. No obvious tampering with electronics or lighting, nothing that can't be explained anyways
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Mar 5th, 2008, 11:28pm

Pretty interesting sOlar. It doesn't sound like a dark spirit but it does sound like you have activity. My advice would be to watch your children especially the youngest. A lot of times a spirit will reach out for kids because they tend to accept them. You may want to ask the spirit to leave that will sometimes work. Most spirits are harmless but watch things closely.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s0lar on Mar 6th, 2008, 10:15am

Thanks cheesy The youngest sticks to my side on the main floor when things start to liven up, and so far so good. I'm not sure I buy the electoplasm based on what I've read on the net.. I think next time I'll be more careful how I clean it up ... I'm tempted to take it in for a dna analysis and rule out the obvious first
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Mar 6th, 2008, 11:39am

on Mar 6th, 2008, 10:15am, s0lar wrote:
Thanks cheesy The youngest sticks to my side on the main floor when things start to liven up, and so far so good. I'm not sure I buy the electoplasm based on what I've read on the net.. I think next time I'll be more careful how I clean it up ... I'm tempted to take it in for a dna analysis and rule out the obvious first


If you have a sample of the goo I'd suggest you get it checked out. It couple be interesting! I would also suggest keeping a diary when these strage events occur. Day, time, date, what everyone was doing etc. You may find a common denominator that you don't see now. Good Luck! Dan
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by candyfloss on Apr 8th, 2008, 07:30am

Here'a strange one for you,i think it would come under the catageory of ghost disaproves of teenage love.When i was about fifteen and in throes of first love my boy friend used to walk me home every night and we used to kiss goodnight on the corner near my mum and dads house.Well,sounds pretty run of the mill except everytime we started 'snogging' the large privet bush(they grow qiute tall in England) used to start shaking.At first we did't really notice but it started shaking more and more violently everytime we started kissing until it was rocking back and forth so bad my boyfriend fled in terror and ran off down the street.I never found anybody behind it and anyone wanteing tp play a practical joke must have been pretty deicated and invisible.Trust me to get a puritan ghost.This happened over and over again .I can't remember when it stopped or can think of an explanation.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by AJC on Apr 8th, 2008, 09:46am

I grew up in one like that. Hauntings of me were ocurring almost every night, but mine might have beeen ufonauts? HMM?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Apr 8th, 2008, 10:55am

Candy maybe the spirit was trying to warn you that the boy was not right for you. Whatever it was it got your attention..Yes? They are spirits all around us we just don't always sense them. But at least you have a story to one day tell the grandchildren. Stay away from the privet bushes, they'll catch you every time!
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by creolelady on Apr 10th, 2008, 8:09pm

This is a copy of a pm I received from new member Chartsweb. The member was unable to get the post to come up so i am doing the post for them:

From Chartsweb
"Hey those are chillings stories and no one understands how frightning unless they have had experiences in thier lives. My Mother and I also saw ghost, only I did not know until adulthood that she saw what I had around age 9. I was always afaid of dark and my sis slept with me and of cousre we had to have a night light in our rm. Which did not save me from waking one night to a tall white glowing misty figure of a man and at foot of bed a shorter solid black man-like being carrying a row orange candles. I was so scared and put head under cover knowing it was a nightmare and would be gone when I looked again but they were still there! So afraid I did not even try to wake my sis and I finally scrambled out on her side where door was and remeber walking behind the back of the black one. He was a solid body. Dad and Mom got up and turned on light in rm and of course no one was there. They probably did not even listen to what I told them I saw. But as I said I learned my Mom saw the white glowing one 3 times. Another time I did wake my sis and she too saw the dark shadow entity standing in door way. It was tall with a head shape that reminded me of my Moms big teased round hairdo. As of this yr I am thinking they may have been aliens. I know I did not ever sleep with my feet hanging off bed {still don't} and the louvored closet doors had to be kept shut with no crack of an opening."

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by candyfloss on Apr 15th, 2008, 09:04am

Thanks for your insights into my spooky teenage romance experience.Aliens trying to riun my love life as well?I hope not.I can't remember which contributor said there is a connection between spooky experiences and ufo's.abductions.I'm beginning to think there's something in this.Ive had a ton of ghostly experiences which would probably bore you all to tears if i recounted them all as they are politigiest in manifetstion.I'm beginning to think somethings following me around as i've moved houses for the last few years and everytime it starts again.Has anyone else had this kind of experience?I would be interested to know.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 15th, 2008, 5:25pm

I could tell you hundreds of ghost stories that have happened to me and family some scare the wits out of you and others effect your emotions.
This one I call my sea ghost ,I was on watch about 1 am on a course for Greenland the rest of the crew had bedded down so I was on my own ,the sea was calm but with there being no moon it was pitch black and I mean pitch black, as I was checking the radar I noticed a large blip on the screen but as the scope was set at twelve miles I regarded it as safe ,time crept by and whatever was showing on the radar was nowhere to be seen by the naked eye, I reduced the scope to read in the six mile radius but still no lights so I got the binoculars and went outside to look for what I took to be a ship and with it being so dark should have been visible.
As nothing was there and it was about the three mile mark I got the skipper up and the first mate, after checking the instruments it was still there on a collision course so all the crew where roused ,I again went outside but this time to the bow with the binoculars but still could see nothing ,when I returned to the bridge all hell was breaking loose as it was practically on us but still nothing was in sight I suggested I switch on the sonar incase it was a sub doing maneuvers but nothing again so the skipper ordered to be ready for collision and prepare to abandon ship, myself the skipper and first mate stayed on the bridge watching the instruments as whatever it was went right through the ship and out the back only the radar showed anything as nothing was seen by the eye or on sonar we all got a bit of a fright as it was mid winter and survival in the water would have been slim.

This one was really weird ,I was in a pub just of the high st in Edinburgh and I was standing chatting to friends that where seated under a window ,as I looked up and out of the window behind them I saw a door to a pub across the road open ,well I knew this pub closed down sometime ago and was being converted into a restaurant and as the building was in darkness I kept watching then I saw a woman leaving and for some odd reason tears formed in my eyes and it was evident why when the old lady looked up and straight at me it was my auntie lizzy who had died twenty odd years ago and this was her regular pub as all my family was raised in the high st anyway we stood staring at each other as she smiled at me I cried, others saw my reaction and looked out the window they too saw her and watched as she faded into nothing, that night my mother died and I believe this was lizzys way of telling me.

I have had lots of experiences like this one as I said some are scary but others are emotional

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 15th, 2008, 5:44pm

Candy floss we have had a similar ghost with us for a long time and it has followed us from house to house, we tried to get rid of it and enlisted the help of the Catholic Church.
That was a very big mistake, we had a priest say prayers and used holy water then he left, yes it was quiet for a few days then came back worse than ever and we suffered horrendous bad luck constantly after a while it all settled to the norm so we left it at that, what we do now if Fred is playing up we talk to him this seems to work why I do not know. the other thing we have is what we call the black rats they are about the size of your average cat see through and can be seen running across the floor also the walls and ceilings, these things swarm every so often, I watched them in the garden one night and they formed two rings one inside the other, the outer ring moved in a clockwise direction and the inner in an anti clock wise direction they then swapped directions, I have also seen them in there hundreds swarming over my twin wheel transit van.

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by candyfloss on Apr 17th, 2008, 06:49am

Thanks for your input Hyunds mate.Your sea story was tres interesting.Have you heard the story about the oil workers in the Piper Alpha rig seeing a Viking ship sail by one night and then someone discovered a Norse legend about the crew of a Viking ship seeing a lage metal monster onlegs in the sea-time slip or what?As regards my'freind(s),I did get some witches in years ago to help when things were really bad and they said it was a woman who had close connection to me .No idea who this could be .I'm releived to hear you see wierd creatures as I've seen them and so has my son independabtly.I used to live near a woodland area with a rep for woodland spirits and used to see what looked like giant hedgehogs coming out of my walls,once i had to jump out of thy'e way ,i also used to see little people on the odd occaision,the most interesting I've seen is whta I call predator man(again my son saw him too)in my house.He had a human shape but he was like a hlolgram and like the being in the film-weird.I think most of what we see is 'playback' and some is just ourselves,what say you?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by candyfloss on Apr 17th, 2008, 06:50am

Thanks for your input Hyunds mate.Your sea story was tres interesting.Have you heard the story about the oil workers in the Piper Alpha rig seeing a Viking ship sail by one night and then someone discovered a Norse legend about the crew of a Viking ship seeing a lage metal monster onlegs in the sea-time slip or what?As regards my'freind(s),I did get some witches in years ago to help when things were really bad and they said it was a woman who had close connection to me .No idea who this could be .I'm releived to hear you see wierd creatures as I've seen them and so has my son independabtly.I used to live near a woodland area with a rep for woodland spirits and used to see what looked like giant hedgehogs coming out of my walls,once i had to jump out of thy'e way ,i also used to see little people on the odd occaision,the most interesting I've seen is whta I call predator man(again my son saw him too)in my house.He had a human shape but he was like a hlolgram and like the being in the film-weird.I think most of what we see is 'playback' and some is just ourselves,what say you?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 17th, 2008, 09:14am

Haven’t heard that one candy only thing I know about Vikings is when I lived in the Shetlands and my oldest daughter used to take part in the Up Helli Aa the burning of the long ship ,but I will search for that story as it sounds interesting.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by candyfloss on Apr 17th, 2008, 3:31pm

did you work at sulum voe?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by waynegohl on Apr 24th, 2008, 11:29am

i have not looked for the answer to this question in this forum but can someone explain to me under what circumstances do ghosts appear. if ghosts appear where something traumatic has happened would that mean there are no ghosts in a graveyard. i mean unless you died in the graveyard there should be no ghosts there as people are only buried there after the fact. are there stories of ghosts in graveyards and under what circumstances were they there.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by candyfloss on Apr 25th, 2008, 03:59am

Well,Wayneghol from what I knowthere are lots of different theories/ideas about why ghosts manifest.Sometimes it's on the same day every year when a tragedy happens,other times they may be grounded to where they lived and don't know how 'togo to the light' so they just hang around.Theories like teenagers manifest poltigiest activity and that ELF can affect the brain and make people see things.One place to start are cultures that are 'comfy' with ghosts and spirits eg;Ireland.England is also packed with ghosts so there's lots of stories there but as you can see from this thread lots of people have had experiences.I England there is tv programme called 'Most Haunted'on Living TV.It's really popular and has dvds from all the seasons it's informing and good entertainment.You would be able to get them on play.com or amazon if you were really interested.Otherwise go to your local library or you could make some loot by writing a letter to your local paper and asking people to write to you with their spooky experiences(most people don't tell others for f of ridicule but are dying to tell someone) and putting into a little booklet-you could call it 'HAUNTED CAPETOWN'-just athought but it would quench your thirst for knowledge,kind regards and good luck young ghosthunter,Candy
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by waynegohl on Apr 25th, 2008, 11:36am

hey thanks for the reply, i asked the question cause i dont think you dont get ghosts in graveyards in other words graveyards are not haunted.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by candyfloss on Apr 26th, 2008, 08:01am

Oh,yeah they are big time.Sorry ,if I misunderstood your question.By the way,underwhat thread did you put the post about the documentary maker searching forthe kids that were at the SA school when the spacesship landed in the playground .I'm really intrested in that.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by waynegohl on Apr 26th, 2008, 08:08am

no its fine, but why would a ghost haunt a grave yard the bodies are only buried there what would a ghost be looking for in a grave yard. the article on the school children is under the thread the aliens have landed i think.

cheers.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Ashiana24 on Jun 17th, 2008, 3:30pm

on Apr 24th, 2008, 11:29am, waynegohl wrote:
i have not looked for the answer to this question in this forum but can someone explain to me under what circumstances do ghosts appear. if ghosts appear where something traumatic has happened would that mean there are no ghosts in a graveyard. i mean unless you died in the graveyard there should be no ghosts there as people are only buried there after the fact. are there stories of ghosts in graveyards and under what circumstances were they there.


Hi Wayne grin

From what I've heard, a lot of times ghosts don't know they're dead OR they're unwilling to accept they're dead. This is why psychics recommend telling ghosts "You don't belong here. You need to go home.....go to the Light."

Many times it's at this point they'll leave and go to the Light. I heard of an Indian shaman who a woman kept seeing in her bedroom at night. The man seemed very angry. Later, she was told that the chief when he was alive wasn't used to women being in the location of where he did his rituals, which was where her bedroom was located.

He thought he was still alive and felt SHE was the one who was an intruder. grin

~ Ashiana
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by waynegohl on Jun 17th, 2008, 3:57pm

ok i understand they dont know they are dead but from what i can gather they would only haunt a place where they died, lets say a house, so they would not travel around the neighbourhood would they, they would stay in the house. therefore they would not haunt graveyards or would they?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Ashiana24 on Jun 17th, 2008, 4:49pm

on Jun 17th, 2008, 3:57pm, waynegohl wrote:
ok i understand they dont know they are dead but from what i can gather they would only haunt a place where they died, lets say a house, so they would not travel around the neighbourhood would they, they would stay in the house. therefore they would not haunt graveyards or would they?


Hi Wayne smiley

Yeah, I think they would because although they're not physically tied to their physical bodies, they still feel an attachment to it. It's like something that's no longer yours but you still feel an attachment to it like when you cash your check and spend the money, although it's not yours any more, you still feel an attachment to it. Lol grin

~ Ashiana
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by crazyhorse on Nov 10th, 2008, 5:02pm

your body doesnt belong to you it belongs to the creator,it is lent to you by god to fullfill your life long journey into heaven!If its a fairley young soul it might not know it has passed into the spiritual worl and keep on doing earthly things! until it figurs out where to go or until humans direct the entity to heaven it might be earth bound for hundreds of years! all of this brings up reincarnation when a soul is ready to become earthbound again it chooses its missions how many years of life and even parents and yes folks it starts allll over again !!! just where did i get this you might ask yourselves..... try meditation lol grin crazyhorse
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by kale on Jul 1st, 2009, 08:54am

Well I've got a ghost cat in my house. I've had one weird instance with my tv (that I recorded) and I've heard a ghost train before.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Jul 3rd, 2009, 10:52pm

on Jul 1st, 2009, 08:54am, kale wrote:
Well I've got a ghost cat in my house. I've had one weird instance with my tv (that I recorded) and I've heard a ghost train before.


I know of several people who've had spirits of animals in their homes. I just wonder if a ghost cat can catch a mouse? smiley
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by kale on Jul 5th, 2009, 09:52am

Don't know, probably only a ghost mouse tongue
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Seeker on Jul 5th, 2009, 11:05pm

on Jul 3rd, 2009, 10:52pm, GForce wrote:
I know of several people who've had spirits of animals in their homes. I just wonder if a ghost cat can catch a mouse? smiley


Haha Dan!!! Good question! wink I posted on the angels, ufos, psychic thread about my recent experience with animal totems, visitations, and medicine, and I am convinced there are powerful messages to be had from that source.

Love your humor! It need not all be so serious and grim grin Life is designed to be an experiential and joyful event!

Carol
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by M.Korhonen on Aug 15th, 2009, 07:40am

My granmother had many intersting stories to tell, and some of them would fit here nicely. But i did not record or write them down, so once again only a rougly told storie ;

One day when she still was a child, she and a couple of her friends did see something very scary when they had a walk. There in front of them were an arm floating over the
road, pointing at a tree. They did run into the town...and when they saw a polisman they told him what they had seen. At first the policeman thought that they were just joking,
but soon he realise that was not the case ( no smiling faces there at all ).

So he did follow the girls to the place, and later on, much more people arrived and some of them started to dig near the tree, and yes, they did find a body.

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Aug 15th, 2009, 10:00am

on Aug 15th, 2009, 07:40am, M.Korhonen wrote:
My granmother had many intersting stories to tell, and some of them would fit here nicely. But i did not record or write them down, so once again only a rougly told storie ;

One day when she still was a child, she and a couple of her friends did see something very scary when they had a walk. There in front of them were an arm floating over the
road, pointing at a tree. They did run into the town...and when they saw a polisman they told him what they had seen. At first the policeman thought that they were just joking,
but soon he realise that was not the case ( no smiling faces there at all ).

So he did follow the girls to the place, and later on, much more people arrived and some of them started to dig near the tree, and yes, they did find a body.


Hi M.... smiley

That is an interesting story. The spirit found a way to have its body found.

Your grandmother sounds like she was an interesting person. My own parents had some interesting stories too, that I never wrote down, but commited to memory.

One such story was when they were renting a 300 year old home in Malaysia built by the Dutch. My father saw a spectre of a woman in a long flowing dress with a bonnet on her head walking down the staircase carrying a candle. They rented a few homes in the area whilst working there and one home they were in they hired a young girl to do work around the home. Cupboards would fly open and the china fly out and smash, and all sorts of other strange things. They did not know at the time it was the young girl that was causing that to happen, but they were advised by an old Chinese man to put her off, and the moment they did, it all stopped.
Another home they rented was so haunted they could not stay there long and it was discovered later that the home was built over an old grave yard.

Keep those stories coming ..... smiley

Luvey

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Eve on Nov 12th, 2009, 07:24am

A friend of ours was telling us the other day that he thinks he may be a medium. I was actually quite surprised bc he is such a no nonsense type of guy. He said that since he was 12 or so, he would experience weird things in his parents house. He said that one night he woke up and saw a headless and armless Indian (he knew it was an Indian bc it had a headdress on) and next to him stood a civil war type cowboy. Later on when he was in the marines he said that he was lying in bed and he felt something lean over him and whisper in his ear. He looked up and saw this dark floating spirit and he tried to move but his body was frozen. He said he saw the spirit walk out of the room with the jerky movements you see in some scary movie flicks. He said it scared the hell out of him. The almost the same thing happened to him in the beachhouse with his wife. He said he was speaking weird languages or something and his body was frozen still. His wife freaked out and finally he came to, then he and his wife walked out of the room and said the room was freezing cold. Then upon walking downstairs, there was a flock of seagulls that came in the window and hit the window. He said it was crazy. Im wondering if he has been taken over bc this guy is INTENSE. I can tell that he is trying to fight something, and I want to help him but Im not sure im prepared to do any energy work with him yet. Im new at it so Im a little afraid that I may release some energies I dont know how to deal with yet.

My husband had an experience when he was a teenager. He said he had fallen asleep on his couch one night and he woke up with his body stiff and unable to move. He looked up over his head and saw a "grim reaper type figure" with long fingers reach out and put his hands on my husbands head. Then, my husband said it was like this thing entered into him. Craziness! He said that during this, things were swirling around him all the time. He said he jumped up as soon as he gained control of his body and ran out of his room.

They both said they did a lot of acid back then but that neither were tripping during the time. I wonder if that had anything to do with it? I mean, Im not stupid, I know what LSD does, but like I said, it wasnt the first time this happened to our friend.

He seems like he really needs help escaping these things. I was awakened the other night with the thought of telling him that he needed to protect himself right now bc he is in a very vulnerable place right now since he is going through a divorce. I hope he listens.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Nov 17th, 2009, 09:53am

Hi Eve

Quote:
A friend of ours was telling us the other day that he thinks he may be a medium. I was actually quite surprised bc he is such a no nonsense type of guy. He said that since he was 12 or so, he would experience weird things in his parents house. He said that one night he woke up and saw a headless and armless Indian (he knew it was an Indian bc it had a headdress on) and next to him stood a civil war type cowboy.


Just wondering if it was headless, where was the head dress? Did he pick that up psychically that it had head dress?

Quote:
Later on when he was in the marines he said that he was lying in bed and he felt something lean over him and whisper in his ear. He looked up and saw this dark floating spirit and he tried to move but his body was frozen. He said he saw the spirit walk out of the room with the jerky movements you see in some scary movie flicks. He said it scared the hell out of him.


I thought at first it sounded like he may have had sleep paralysis, but when you mentioned the jerky motion that the dark spirit walked with, it reminded me of the shadow beings I have seen that walked in a jerking motion, and incredibly fast. This sounds to me like it could have been a shadow being.

Quote:
The almost the same thing happened to him in the beach house with his wife. He said he was speaking weird languages or something and his body was frozen still. His wife freaked out and finally he came to, then he and his wife walked out of the room and said the room was freezing cold. Then upon walking downstairs, there was a flock of seagulls that came in the window and hit the window. He said it was crazy. Im wondering if he has been taken over bc this guy is INTENSE. I can tell that he is trying to fight something, and I want to help him but Im not sure im prepared to do any energy work with him yet. Im new at it so Im a little afraid that I may release some energies I dont know how to deal with yet.


In many instances developing psychics experience psychic attack…. I did for a long time, and its not nice to go through. The thing for him to do is try and remain grounded. I don’t think he has been taken over….. I think he is trying to deal with a broken marriage, and all these other things as well. I know what that is like, been there had that. It was a tough time, but I came through it. Its important that he believes in himself, and is true to himself. Going through a broken marriage and the stress involved, would make him all the more sensitive to paranormal activity. Stress really heightens our awareness.

Quote:
My husband had an experience when he was a teenager. He said he had fallen asleep on his couch one night and he woke up with his body stiff and unable to move. He looked up over his head and saw a "grim reaper type figure" with long fingers reach out and put his hands on my husbands head. Then, my husband said it was like this thing entered into him. Craziness! He said that during this, things were swirling around him all the time. He said he jumped up as soon as he gained control of his body and ran out of his room.


Whether this was sleep paralysis or something else, I don’t know. I think way too many things are put down to sleep paralysis. Years ago I saw a picture in a book that someone had taken inside an old church, and when they had the film developed there was a grim reaper apparition in the photograph. The person did not see it there when the photograph was taken.

Quote:
They both said they did a lot of acid back then but that neither were tripping during the time. I wonder if that had anything to do with it? I mean, Im not stupid, I know what LSD does, but like I said, it wasnt the first time this happened to our friend.


I have never taken LSD so I don’t know the effects, but I looked up how long it can take for LSD to get out of a persons system and it said between a day and 8 weeks! Whether it can still effect the mind while its in the system I would not know…. Others here may know….. huh

Quote:
He seems like he really needs help escaping these things. I was awakened the other night with the thought of telling him that he needed to protect himself right now bc he is in a very vulnerable place right now since he is going through a divorce. I hope he listens.


All protection is really from the mind and of the mind….. If he believes that protection will help him, it will, if he does not believe it will, then it won’t. We live in a mind universe. Our own mind is our most powerful weapon and ally.

Luvey
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by wanderer on Dec 7th, 2009, 12:50pm

I don't understand Reincarnation and Karma. If Edgar Cayce is correct that we have all experienced forty or more past lives, will I ever meet or reconnect with any of the mothers, fathers, and siblings and children from all of these past lives? Are they gone forever or will they remain in my collective consciousness memory as per Carl Jung's theory? Connie
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Dec 8th, 2009, 6:34pm

on Dec 7th, 2009, 12:50pm, wanderer wrote:
I don't understand Reincarnation and Karma. If Edgar Cayce is correct that we have all experienced forty or more past lives, will I ever meet or reconnect with any of the mothers, fathers, and siblings and children from all of these past lives? Are they gone forever or will they remain in my collective consciousness memory as per Carl Jung's theory? Connie


I don't know about the 40 or more lives. I don't remember reading that from Cayce however that's not to say he didn't say it. However some people have lived more past lives than others. My belief is that we do cross paths with people from past lives. Maybe not as close or personal as we were in past lives. Sort of like a recurring cycle with different type relationships. I've met strangers that I had an instant bond with, often becoming friends. I usually feel something about them that I can't put my finger on!

I also believe our past lives and lessons learned are stored in a spiritual file similar to what Jung believes.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Seeker on Dec 8th, 2009, 8:10pm

on Dec 8th, 2009, 6:34pm, GForce wrote:
I don't know about the 40 or more lives. I don't remember reading that from Cayce however that's not to say he didn't say it. However some people have lived more past lives than others. My belief is that we do cross paths with people from past lives. Maybe not as close or personal as we were in past lives. Sort of like a recurring cycle with different type relationships. I've met strangers that I had an instant bond with, often becoming friends. I usually feel something about them that I can't put my finger on!

I also believe our past lives and lessons learned are stored in a spiritual file similar to what Jung believes.


Nicely put, Dan smiley
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Dec 9th, 2009, 9:50pm

Thanks Carol! Hope you're well and have a wonderful holiday season! smiley
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by TheTenthDoctor on Jan 6th, 2010, 2:06pm

It may sound crazy but last night i had a cold spot on my legs while i was trying to get some sleep and i was looking around for any signs of a ghost trying to appear and there was nothing.

It's possible a ghost ran past me to cause this cold spot.

I haven't told my family about this either.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Jan 6th, 2010, 5:56pm

on Jan 6th, 2010, 2:06pm, TheTenthDoctor wrote:
It may sound crazy but last night i had a cold spot on my legs while i was trying to get some sleep and i was looking around for any signs of a ghost trying to appear and there was nothing.

It's possible a ghost ran past me to cause this cold spot.

I haven't told my family about this either.


If it was a paranormal event my guess is you were touched. But you should try to rule out everything else like air conditioning vents, ceiling vans or even a draft. My one question was did you sense anything unusual before it happened?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Jan 11th, 2010, 02:00am

on Jan 6th, 2010, 2:06pm, TheTenthDoctor wrote:
It may sound crazy but last night i had a cold spot on my legs while i was trying to get some sleep and i was looking around for any signs of a ghost trying to appear and there was nothing.

It's possible a ghost ran past me to cause this cold spot.

I haven't told my family about this either.


Hello TTD

I have experienced those cold spots before. The first time I experienced it was after my father passed away. My mother use to be able to feel his spirit whenever it was around. (They were married more than 50 years before his passing). Anyway it was a very hot day and I had taken her out shopping. We walked into the kitchen and instantly I felt an icy cold spot on my leg and right at the moment as I felt it, my mother said, "Dad is here". It was not air conditioning or drafts or anything like that. We were both feeling rather hot and the house was hot when we walked in.... that happened back in 1981, but over the years I have experienced these cold spots at different times, and also phantom drafts amongst other things.

Luvey
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by NorvalC on Aug 22nd, 2010, 08:59am

IMHO Ghosts are just bad aliens messing with your mind. They are deceiving you into thinking there are things as ghosts.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Aug 22nd, 2010, 09:30am

on Aug 22nd, 2010, 08:59am, NorvalC wrote:
IMHO Ghosts are just bad aliens messing with your mind. They are deceiving you into thinking there are things as ghosts.


Interesting opinion. In the sense that they're no longer on the physical earth plane they could be called alien at least in nature. But my experiences with ghosts/spirits tells me that most are the energy/souls of humans or animals. That's not to say aliens can't come in an energy form. I've read that they can although I have personal knowledge. I have however seen spirits of passed loved ones though. Dan
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Aug 22nd, 2010, 12:11pm

on Aug 22nd, 2010, 08:59am, NorvalC wrote:
IMHO Ghosts are just bad aliens messing with your mind. They are deceiving you into thinking there are things as ghosts.


What huh Aliens and not demons?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Aug 22nd, 2010, 12:24pm

on Aug 22nd, 2010, 09:30am, GForce wrote:
Interesting opinion. In the sense that they're no longer on the physical earth plane they could be called alien at least in nature. But my experiences with ghosts/spirits tells me that most are the energy/souls of humans or animals. That's not to say aliens can't come in an energy form. I've read that they can although I have personal knowledge. I have however seen spirits of passed loved ones though. Dan


I agree Dan, I too have had experiences with them and know that I am definitely dealing with spirits. I have seen passed family members too. And with all the animal spirits we have had come and lay down on our bed as well....
So many have said its demons deceiving us into thinking there is life after death, but its a first for me to read that its aliens deceiving us into thinking there are things as ghosts.
A ghost to me is an imprint in time, a memory like a recording that plays over. I have seen spirits in different forms, one that looked like glass or crystal in perfect human form, others appeared like on a negative of film. One spirit appeared as solid as you or I, then disappeared. I have also seen many different types of shadow beings.

Aliens do come in their energy form and that is how they are able to walk through walls etc. But people report seeing little people with big eyes…. All sorts of different sizes and colours. People report being paralysed, bright lights, seeing spacecraft….etc I have not read a case yet where a person experiencing alien visitations says they felt very cold spots, or wind blowing on them, or felt their hair being stroked by unseen hands, or saw their deceased loved ones, and the many other things people report to do with spirits. To me aliens are a separate type of phenomenon.


Luvey

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by NorvalC on Aug 23rd, 2010, 08:43am

While I too have had a few experiences with the paranormal, ghost like apparitions, and supposed communications with dead people, so called spirits, shadow people, or what have you, it has all proved to be just fakery and deception. The link, or tie in, with bad aliens doing such things can be attributed to the application of their advanced technologies in performing these so called paranormal activities that would deceive, and quite easily, those that want to believe there is a continuation of life after death.

These, so called demons, fallen angels, are just bad aliens messing with people's minds. It is stated that they are liars, deceivers, slanderers, and just plain old fashioned ones you would NOT want for a neighbor. This trickery has been going on for thousands of years. With our modern technological comprehension it is simple to understand just how easy it would be to deceive some with imaginative ideas and beliefs.

The fact is, we are physical beings, with eyes to see with, ears to hear with, noses to smell with, voices to be heard, and all the rest of our physical senses to provide input and the capacity to interact with the physical realities of life. Anything beyond that is pure imaginative speculation. IMHO
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Aug 23rd, 2010, 11:19am

on Aug 23rd, 2010, 08:43am, NorvalC wrote:
While I too have had a few experiences with the paranormal, ghost like apparitions, and supposed communications with dead people, so called spirits, shadow people, or what have you, it has all proved to be just fakery and deception. The link, or tie in, with bad aliens doing such things can be attributed to the application of their advanced technologies in performing these so called paranormal activities that would deceive, and quite easily, those that want to believe there is a continuation of life after death.

These, so called demons, fallen angels, are just bad aliens messing with people's minds. It is stated that they are liars, deceivers, slanderers, and just plain old fashioned ones you would NOT want for a neighbor. This trickery has been going on for thousands of years. With our modern technological comprehension it is simple to understand just how easy it would be to deceive some with imaginative ideas and beliefs.

The fact is, we are physical beings, with eyes to see with, ears to hear with, noses to smell with, voices to be heard, and all the rest of our physical senses to provide input and the capacity to interact with the physical realities of life. Anything beyond that is pure imaginative speculation. IMHO


Norvalc

Yes, and God gave me a brain to think for myself…. and you can keep your humble opinion and I will keep mine.
There is no indication that aliens are in any way actively messing with human minds to convince humans* that they are demons, fallen angels etc. Whether or not aliens might have such capability many common details in spiritual phenomena do not appear in alien related phenomena.
You are entitled to think whatever you want to think, but I think you are stretching to find a connection.

Luvey

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by NorvalC on Aug 24th, 2010, 5:39pm

on Aug 23rd, 2010, 11:19am, Luvey wrote:
Norvalc

Yes, and God gave me a brain to think for myself….

There is no indication that aliens are in any way actively messing with human minds to convince humans* that they are demons, fallen angels etc.




Luvy,
Interesting twist to what I actually asked about.

But I am sure that there must be some aliens that want us to know the truth about the "other aliens".
Just good aliens doing their jobs, and bad ones doing their jobs I suppose.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Shaman on Aug 24th, 2010, 11:28pm

Quote:
Luvy,
Interesting twist to what I actually asked about.

But I am sure that there must be some aliens that want us to know the truth about the "other aliens".
Just good aliens doing their jobs, and bad ones doing their jobs I suppose.


NorvalC

Actually, looking back at your post, I didn't see any question, only your assertions. Even the assertions are unclear and a bit rambling. From what little I could make out, you didn't seem to really be on topic with "Ghosts and Hauntings", but rambling about good aliens and bad aliens.

Unless you can clarify your message, and show its relevance to the topic no one can respond sensibly. It looks, to me, like an attempt to hijack the thread into a different discussion.

Shaman
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Belizeman on Aug 25th, 2010, 12:29am

creolelady-
Does Destrehan ring a bell??
Was raised there.
Met that slave ghost that saved my life right
in front of the old abandoned Destrehan Plantation!!

Never felt any ties to Aliens, come to think of it!

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by NorvalC on Aug 25th, 2010, 10:10am

Shaman,
You may want to refference this post to clarify your inability to comprehend my post you quoted.
If there is any kind of thread jacking, it is you and your ramblings about me.
This thread was started back in Thread started on: Oct 31st, 2005, by B J Booth, Topic: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion.

Based on what is known of alien technology, it is thought by many that they could be our ghosts and goblins, apparitions and hauntings. Who knows what the real truth is? It is just a discussion.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Aug 25th, 2010, 11:17am

Norvalc

Quote:
Shaman,
You may want to refference this post to clarify your inability to comprehend my post you quoted.
If there is any kind of thread jacking, it is you and your ramblings about me.
This thread was started back in Thread started on: Oct 31st, 2005, by B J Booth, Topic: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion.


You are the one with the inability to comprehend what this thread is about. It’s about Ghosts and Hauntings, not about good and bad aliens. If you want to start a thread about good and bad aliens then please do so. You are the one hijacking this thread, not Shaman, he was trying to bring it back on topic.

Quote:
Based on what is known of alien technology, it is thought by many that they could be our ghosts and goblins, apparitions and hauntings. Who knows what the real truth is? It is just a discussion.


I don’t remember reading anything about goblins in this thread, this is about ghosts and hauntings. I have never read where apparitions and hauntings are anything to do with aliens. Goblins, fairies etc I have read where Vallee calls these supernatural beings and Talbot thought them to be other dimensional beings. Oh! But then you said there is no proof of other dimensions, and it would only muddy the waters. And too, I haven’t seen or heard of any ghosts abducting people and hauling them off in their spacecraft.

So please start a new thread to talk about good and bad aliens.

Luvey

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by NorvalC on Aug 25th, 2010, 6:02pm

I am so sorry, I won't attempt to discuss other possible causes for your ghosts and haunts.
(There is no word such as hauntings.)
You all have a nice day now.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by crazyhorse on Aug 26th, 2010, 10:08am

am so sorry, I won't attempt to discuss other possible causes for your ghosts and haunts.
(There is no word such as hauntings.)
You all have a nice day now.
NorvalC your in for a rude awakening when you pass away,mabey youll only figure it out then!! Reincarnation is a part of life! and so are Good and Evil Spirits,young souls and old souls aswell! one day Something will hapend To you or arround you and like a light bulb turning on youll realise a whole bunch of things and place all what you though wasnt logical into its perspective place and the Spirit whithin you will grow closer to god (your soul)i also beleive that aliens are children of god and our brothers and sisters from far away sharing the (same ) god! your awakening might take 50 years or it might be arround the corner! Good luck may god be with you! CH wink


Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by beeleaver66 on Aug 28th, 2010, 8:50pm

Here I'll share an experience i had; I was living in the mountains of Central Pennsylvania, in 1994, it was february and we had a slight thaw, not much snow on the ground but a lot of ice. So my road turned to mud. One morning about 3:30 or so, my girlfriend woke me and my initial reaction was something was wrong, she was stiff as a board, lying on her back, staring straight up at the ceiling, i immediately heard hooves and wagon type noises, so i leaned over her, and looked out the window. On my road, about thirty feet away, moving slowly from right to left, i saw first, two large black, draft horses, hitched to a black carriage, that had a long window down the side, there were some types of feathers or wreaths bent from front to rear. i saw no one at the reins. i dont think I saw reins, but the Horses had bits and harnesses, and blinders, i heard that, when they shook their heads, also they had some kind of decorations on their manes,
I was freaked out most by these giant animals on my road, thirty feet from my cabin! the carriage had the old time, large spoked wheels. and i thought of the mess they were making on my road. After viewing this for as long as i could see it out the window, and with my girlfriend still seemingly paralyzed, I left my initial position and I grabbed my shotgun close by, and quickly went to the front door. When i flung this door open and went out kinda pissed off, there was nothing there.
I grabbed my 2 million candlewatt flashlight and with the shoddy, walked over to my road, which i expected would be requiring some work. i saw nothing out of place, my tracks were the last one's on the road, and they were still there. No horse tracks, no wagon wheel tracks, nothing. I looked up the road, the direction it was heading, and didnt see it. the speed it was going, i should have intercepted it when i reached the Front door. I looked all around for a minute or two, trying to put this in some perspective. A blast of ice cold air hit me, and i shivered to the bone. I returned inside to check on my girl, and she was moving, and stretching as if she was just waking up. But she was frightened badly. I asked her what she saw, and it wasnt without some coaxing that she told me what she saw. Which was the same thing i saw. I felt better after she told me this. I felt that I was sane, again.
Couldnt even think about sleeping, for several weeks after that, I would hear a deer outside and think it was back. I did some research and found out this carriage was actually a Hearse from the late 19th century. I began asking family members who lived in town, close by, if they ever heard of a cemetary in the Mountain? No one knew anything about it. I went to the state capital and did some research into land plots and such, of my area, and found nothing to indicate there was a cemetary or even a homestead up that way. Just hunting cabins. My girlfriend soon became my ex girlfriend, as i wouldnt move into town. tongue
this event means many things to me, and has meant many thing to my life. there is a meaning to it. And that is what i am most grateful for. That i was privileged to see it.
beeleaver
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Aug 29th, 2010, 08:18am

Hello beeleaver

That is quite a story…! Its almost like there was a hiccup in the fabric of time that allowed you to see that. Really amazing! I wonder what it was doing there in that particular place. I have seen those particular hearse carriages in old time movies. I can’t say as I blame your girlfriend for not wanting to stay there though. It must have frightened her pretty bad.

Thank you for sharing.

Luvey

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by crazyhorse on Aug 29th, 2010, 08:48am

wow cool story Beeleaver66 do you still own the cabin ?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by PowerKnight on Oct 29th, 2011, 1:01pm

I would say a high percentage of people have experienced or seen something very strange at some time of the lives. What exactly does it all mean I`m really not sure, but some things do interact in shape or form.
I have had a few strange experiences not many but a few in my lifetime, the most recent and it was beautiful, my dad was suffering from vascular dementia and had to be cared for in a nursing home.
Apart from this illness and a few other ailments it was a rapid decline really since he was put into care.
I saw him on a Tuesday afternoon like every visit on a regular basis but this particular afternoon unlike others as I walked in to see him he was lounging in a low back chair looking much more less confused and very relaxed instead of constant unease.
The moment I saw him he looked at me and gave me a very wry smile, I thought nothing of it.
I embraced him and oddly this was something due to his illness I never got a response from him, on this occasion he embraced me and squeezed me hard but within a second I swear I felt him flowing through my system, it felt beautiful and a very warm feeling.
After an hour or so I left I told my mum because it felt very different she took no notice her mind was elsewhere. I got a phone call on Thursday from the care home he had passed away without any warning.
I am 100% certain this was his behaviour on the Tuesday as if it was the last time...I always wanted to be with my dad in his final time and although I wasn`t present when he did pass away this event seems to hold a significance.
It was very bizarre and no one had any idea he would pass away so soon as it was thought he would probably end up totally bed ridden before the disease would finally take over his complete system. I have never experienced anything like this in my entire life but it was real and along with this event I`m compelled to say something else in life works but we do not know maybe how or why it does? PowerKnight cry
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Nov 1st, 2011, 2:20pm

Sounds like the acceptance of one happy with their life. Not many are so fortunate at that time. And it sounds like he either knew or was ready.

You live in the Uk, where things have been set for a long time. It's not that way here. I've had more than my share of experiences though, there was something about the house I grew up in. Never saw anything physical, but some things you just feel/sense. Not that tale of cold air you always here on TV. In this house you would feel the hair on the back of your neck stand straight up, often times in broad daylight. Go outside and you would be fine.

There was one time when something was banging on my bedroom door, I looked, but nothing was there. That was strange.

I really didn't care for it. I never got a friendly feeling from it. Quite the opposite. I never mentioned it until I was grown, and felt sheepish when I did. My Mother and Father both knew exactly what I was talking about. I guess it shouldn't have been so surprising. Why would I be the only one?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by PowerKnight on Nov 2nd, 2011, 3:11pm

Can energy really be destroyed? The spark within us the personality surviving beyond the shell, the mortal coil.
That`s all I can say I felt him flowing through my soul, it was brief but it happened and I know of similar cases documented. It is said when a person is close to death the individual sense`s the end some can communicate this I think whilst others for different reasons cannot or might not be aware? PowerKnight wink
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s9999 on Nov 12th, 2011, 8:31pm

Never saw spooks really dont think they are a real thing.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s9999 on Nov 28th, 2011, 09:38am

Does some of you have proof of these ghosts and where are they.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by PowerKnight on Dec 3rd, 2011, 2:38pm

We can only speculate on eye witness accounts along with either photographic or video footage taken over the years.
I have never seen anything that can be considered an apparition or whatever, the nearest is only a presence and physical touch that lasted seconds when I was younger. And being a logical person I have ran through everything possible all angles, even though it was a long time ago the presence didn`t feel threatening but reassuring and it was a few gentle strokes to my head whilst in bed.
But the moment I realised I got little scared when there was no one around, strange but true, PowerKnight wink
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Dec 5th, 2011, 10:36am

Not a drop of proof do I possess, but trust me, if you had grown up in the same house I did, you would believe in ............ things going bump in the night at the very least.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Dec 5th, 2011, 8:38pm

on Dec 5th, 2011, 10:36am, icepick wrote:
Not a drop of proof do I possess, but trust me, if you had grown up in the same house I did, you would believe in ............ things going bump in the night at the very least.


Ditto Tim! There's been a heck of a lot more ghost sightings than aliens.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Dec 5th, 2011, 10:38pm

I have seen many ghosts, and shadow beings, and also felt spirits pass right through my body. For those who haven't experienced these things I have posted some links to investigations into the afterlife. smiley

Luvey

The Afterlife Investigations 1 - Rupert Sheldrake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frJpThIims8&feature=relmfu

The Afterlife Investigations 2 - Researcher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mti3oWINgY0&feature=relmfu

The Afterlife Investigations 3 - Dr. David Fontana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGV8aQxCsCI

The Scole Experiment

Quote:
The Scole Experiment chronicles the extraordinary results of a five-year investigation into life after death. At the beginning of 1993 four psychic researchers embarked on a series of experiments in the Norfolk village of Scole. The subsequent events were so astounding that senior members of the prestigious Society for Psychical Research asked to observe, test and record what took place.

The investigators... encountered evidence favouring the hypothesis of intelligent forces... able to influence material objects, and to convey associated meaningful messages, both visual and aural


http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Dec 6th, 2011, 03:48am

on Dec 5th, 2011, 8:38pm, GForce wrote:
Ditto Tim! There's been a heck of a lot more ghost sightings than aliens.


That's true. Heck of it is, in my case, I had fought hard as a child to remain a skeptic.

I hail from Virginia, but when I was very little, we moved to the town of Raymond in Washington State. This is where that house lies. It scared the crap out of me to be honest. But my father was fighting a raging case of delayed stress from WWII, an inevitability for such a gentle soul as he. It wound up causing my mother to have a nervous breakdown, and she left him. I could never convince her to forgive herself for that damnit, because dad was never violent. But being so young, I was awarded to my mother, so back to Virginia I went.

While I was there, I managed to explain the phenomena taking place in that house. Or so I thought. Out of all of them, the most prevalent was a strange, very surrealistic dream I would have every night. The next was a clock ticking in the walls. I discovered that there's a bug that makes a ticking sound that lives in walls and attributed the ticking to that. And I rationalized the footsteps as floorboards popping back up in patterns as they cooled at night. This all makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

Well, in post army days I wanted to see my dad, so I went to stay with him. And the first night, I promptly had that dream. Twice. Chalk it up to staying in that house again, correct? Well, next I encountered one of those bugs at a friend's place. Ticking? Yes, but sounded nothing like what was in our house. Hmmmmm .... troubling.

Then I had the most profound experience ever at that house. Keep in mind this is a house that can make the hair on your neck stand up in broad daylight. Get outside and you were fine. It was 1AM, and I had been partying with friends. Dad had a habit of liking to talk when I came in, but I wasn't feeling like that, so I slid this lock on my bedroom door closed. Two minutes later the door started pounding. You could see it move. Deciding he may get upset, I got up, but the pounding stopped as I got to the door, which I promptly opened. To be honest, I was not in the best of spirits.

But ....... nobody there! Just the moonlight, shining across the fields. Dad's room was right next to mine, with the door wide open, so I peeked in. His positioning made it obvious that the man had been sleeping soundly for hours!

Within two weeks I rented myself another farmhouse, three miles further up the creek. River actually, it's decent sized. Never again did I try to explain that house. Years later I brought the subject up to dad, then mother later on. They both had known about it all along, but kept quiet so as to not scare us kids. Dad's rationalization was "those things can't hurt you Timothy". Could have fooled me, because very few things managed to frighten me that much. But it took that final experience to convince me, that house is not right. Sad too. It's in such a serene, beautiful setting. Drive down across a bridge, between some fields, and up onto this little knoll. Nearest neighbor is more than a mile distant. But I've only spent one additional night there since.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Dec 6th, 2011, 04:01am

on Dec 5th, 2011, 10:38pm, Luvey wrote:
I have seen many ghosts, and shadow beings, and also felt spirits pass right through my body. For those who haven't experienced these things I have posted some links to investigations into the afterlife. smiley

Luvey

The Afterlife Investigations 1 - Rupert Sheldrake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frJpThIims8&feature=relmfu

The Afterlife Investigations 2 - Researcher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mti3oWINgY0&feature=relmfu

The Afterlife Investigations 3 - Dr. David Fontana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGV8aQxCsCI

The Scole Experiment



http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/


It's the Shadow People I find most interesting Pen. I encountered this situation at a friend's house about 12 years ago. You could actually see something like shadows detach themselves from the walls and move. It was in a dark, older mobile home, and I passed it off as light tricks. But several people had a weird experience there. It might be important to point out that my friend was a single, very pretty girl. And everyone who had the experience was a boyfriend. Something would hold them down, and they couldn't get up. Only a couple are what I consider diligently honest, but ............. all were visibly shaken by the experience. And none of these big, macho type men would go back there. But this ........ entity never bothered Jen once. No, it never happened to me, but I did see tricky shadows, and the place had that can't get your butt out fast enough feel to it. Strong enough for me to no longer scoff shadow people stories. She completely disassembled that trailer, and hauled the frame away, so there's no chance to investigate that one. Was something protecting here? All but one of those guys had hit her at some time. Just a thought.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Dec 6th, 2011, 08:51am

Hi Tim

The last shadow being I saw was in the US last year while I was on holiday there. The first ones I ever saw scared ten years growth out of me... literally. (that was a long time ago now). I climbed into bed and shut my eyes for a few moments then opened them and there right beside my bed was a shadow being... I got such a fright, and it took off running in a jerking motion and as I followed it with my eyes there were others in the room. The shadow being must have had a consciousness if it was aware that I saw it... For weeks before however I had been experiencing a bright white orb at my bedroom door every night. My son who was young at that time saw it too....

I don't know what the shadow beings are but they are definitely something and they take a real interest in us humans.

A few months ago I experienced pounding on the end of our bed just after climbing into bed. My husband woke up and he felt it too... and when I asked whoever/whatever it was to stop they just kept pounding. The next day my brother was rushed to hospital... they had to jump start his heart. I believe I was being warned that it was going to happen.

Luvey

on Dec 6th, 2011, 04:01am, icepick wrote:
It's the Shadow People I find most interesting Pen. I encountered this situation at a friend's house about 12 years ago. You could actually see something like shadows detach themselves from the walls and move. It was in a dark, older mobile home, and I passed it off as light tricks. But several people had a weird experience there. It might be important to point out that my friend was a single, very pretty girl. And everyone who had the experience was a boyfriend. Something would hold them down, and they couldn't get up. Only a couple are what I consider diligently honest, but ............. all were visibly shaken by the experience. And none of these big, macho type men would go back there. But this ........ entity never bothered Jen once. No, it never happened to me, but I did see tricky shadows, and the place had that can't get your butt out fast enough feel to it. Strong enough for me to no longer scoff shadow people stories. She completely disassembled that trailer, and hauled the frame away, so there's no chance to investigate that one. Was something protecting here? All but one of those guys had hit her at some time. Just a thought.

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Dec 6th, 2011, 09:33am

Spirits/ghosts come in different forms. I think some have the ability maybe from crossing over to take forms, travel more easily than others. You see many orbs and when checked with EMF detectors are balls of energy. Could it be they're visiting spirits?

Shadow beings could be grounded spirits IMO. I've seen shadow beings in places like hospitals. Where death often occurs. Maybe those in a hospital who died recently are looking to cross.

Most shadow beings are mostly associated with DARK energy. I would think a grounded spirit probably would have negative energy attached. For whatever reason maybe living a bad life they seem to remain attached to this plane. Anyway this is just a theory! Dan
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Dec 6th, 2011, 3:58pm

Pen, that was my lone experience with them. I might have scoffed had I not seen the one myself. All I can say is trippin' weird. I've seen strange things, but nothing like that. One seemed to nearly develop full form, then faded right back into the wall.

Hey Dan, I don't think they're grounded spirits. I've never heard of a spirit being able to pin a 200 pound man to a couch anyways. Spirits take their power from you. Rather you give it to them. Seems these things just have it. They certainly left several big hulking macho types so shaken they wouldn't go back there. I never had an issue there though. I saw what looked like two shapes peel themselves off the wall, only to fade back in later. And this is all I'll say about it, because it's all I have to say about it. If not for Jen I wouldn't have this, because I didn't believe them. I figured they were high or something. So she proved it to me. This gal is like that. Always backs her bluff up. It was rather ............. strange.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s9999 on Dec 6th, 2011, 8:01pm

Shadow People exist and do not respond or listen to skeptics. Instead they move straight through them if they wish to.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Luvey on Dec 6th, 2011, 9:23pm

Hello Dan and Tim

You both bring up some interesting points about these shadow beings. I believe, like Dan, that they are manifestations of many different types of spirits.

The first lot that came to my bedroom I feel were ultraterrestrials and they were intelligent, organized and had a purpose. They also came with an orb of light... matter of fact the orb of light stayed like a sentry at my bedroom door for weeks. The last time it came my son whose bed was positioned in such a way could see into my bedroom saw the orb of light float to the end of my bed and hover then explode... it terrified him no end as he was only about 11-12 at the time. I did not see that happen as I was asleep, but after a white mist floated through the air of my home and it was a perpetual mist. It followed me to my next home, and then again to the home after that, and now I am in another home and I have never seen it here. That was over a course of many years.

Another I have seen which was pretty much shapeless I believe was someone who had passed over that day that I did not know about at the time. That one appeared 3 times to me and once to my son all on the same day and I sensed it was trying to get a message to me, because the last time I saw it late at night it was flickering trying to get my attention. The person who I believe it to have been was a very nice person.... and into the spiritual. I had not seen her for ages, and about two - three weeks before I saw her downtown getting into a car with her husband, and she told me she was dying of cancer.

The shadows passing through me I believe are spirits... who though, I have no idea... I have had shadows pass through me while performing Reiki, and also while sitting watching Reiki being performed by another, and I also experienced shadows passing through me while inside the stone circle at Stonehenge. These are not the same as a spirit passing through me where I have felt the electromagnetic energy pass through my body. With the shadows that have passed through me I have seen the darkness pass through my body but not felt electromagnetic energy. How they sustain themselves I don’t know....

Shadow beings attacking specific people; I have only read about where they have tried to reach into people’s hearts terrifying them. I haven’t read of shadow beings pinning a person down before but I have read of spirits attacking assailants breaking into homes... like they are protecting the person who lives there. I thought that was very interesting Tim! As I mentioned earlier I believe shadow beings to be manifestations of many different types of spirits. Some people even have the ability to manifest shadow beings like Tulpas. Could your friend have been one of these type of people doing it without the knowledge that they were?

Another interesting point brought up is food.... everything that we know of has to live off something... they need energy which could explain why some shadow beings try to reach into people’s hearts. The shadow being I saw in NC reminded me of a CCTV video from a shopping center security camera that was posted on CB a few years ago. The shadow was passing through a shopping centre... and of course everyone was saying... yeah, yeah that is a fly on the lens of the camera. I had my doubts.... this shadow being looked like that only a lot larger. The need for these beings for sustenance is an observation I noticed with the shadow being I saw in North Carolina last year in the motel car park. It was the early hours of the morning and we had just driven down from Virginia...(my favourite place in the whole world, apart from England)... Both hubby and I were super charged with energy from being in those mountains, so much so our skin was crackling!
When I first saw the shadow being near the building twice due to flood lighting... I was alert and watching for it.... next thing it came right over the bonnet of the car and part of it through the windscreen where I was sitting waiting for my husband to book in and get a key to a room. When I told my husband he said it would have come for the energy.... he said the car would have gathered a lot of energy from being in the mountains and driving.... The shadow beings that try to reach into people’s hearts are a concern... I was reading a few weeks ago about the ancient Egyptian ceremony for the dead and how they waited for a shadow bird to take the heart of the deceased.... which was similar to the Native American story of the Raven Mocker.

Luvey

Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s9999 on Dec 6th, 2011, 11:07pm

When I lived in England I saw them in many places including the Victoria Monument the day Charles and Diana wed. They cast a shadow over many things.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Dec 7th, 2011, 09:24am

on Dec 6th, 2011, 3:58pm, icepick wrote:
Hey Dan, I don't think they're grounded spirits. I've never heard of a spirit being able to pin a 200 pound man to a couch anyways. Spirits take their power from you. Rather you give it to them. Seems these things just have it. They certainly left several big hulking macho types so shaken they wouldn't go back there. I never had an issue there though. I saw what looked like two shapes peel themselves off the wall, only to fade back in later. And this is all I'll say about it, because it's all I have to say about it. If not for Jen I wouldn't have this, because I didn't believe them. I figured they were high or something. So she proved it to me. This gal is like that. Always backs her bluff up. It was rather ............. strange.


Tim, I've never heard of a shadow being having poltergeist abilities. What you've described sounds more demonic or a very strong negative spirit. Dan
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by s9999 on Dec 7th, 2011, 10:53am

Shadow people are seen many times in healthcare facilities. Sickness or death seems to bring them out.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Dec 7th, 2011, 10:39pm

Dan, they definitely fit the description of shadows. I had but the one experience, yet it matched perfectly enough to convince me that a shadow was what it was. Good thing I saw it too, or I might have pushed this one off lightly.

Curious you say demonic though. You are aware that it is we who grant demons the power aren't you? Well, of course you are. I know where you live. People there are taught to be in touch with this side of things.

Pen, she may very well have conjured up a portal or something unintentionally. She's very nice, but can be very dark and sulking at times. She was constantly abused in a sexual way as a child. Her trailer, actually half mobile home, half added on house, was out in the sticks pretty much. It seemed to me that it was like everybody said. The place was infested with them. Or something very like them.

Tim
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Dec 7th, 2011, 10:40pm

on Dec 7th, 2011, 10:53am, s9999 wrote:
Shadow people are seen many times in healthcare facilities. Sickness or death seems to bring them out.


Now that you mention it, I do remember reading that somewhere.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Dec 7th, 2011, 11:43pm

on Dec 7th, 2011, 10:39pm, icepick wrote:
Curious you say demonic though. You are aware that it is we who grant demons the power aren't you? Well, of course you are. I know where you live. People there are taught to be in touch with this side of things.



Tim


Hi Tim, yes I know that. I also know we can create poltergeists. Especially those people who have PK abilities. Dan
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Dec 7th, 2011, 11:48pm

True. Poltergeist has a different meaning than most think.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by WingsofCrystal on Dec 12th, 2011, 10:49am

on Dec 3rd, 2011, 2:38pm, PowerKnight wrote:
We can only speculate on eye witness accounts along with either photographic or video footage taken over the years.
I have never seen anything that can be considered an apparition or whatever, the nearest is only a presence and physical touch that lasted seconds when I was younger. And being a logical person I have ran through everything possible all angles, even though it was a long time ago the presence didn`t feel threatening but reassuring and it was a few gentle strokes to my head whilst in bed.
But the moment I realised I got little scared when there was no one around, strange but true, PowerKnight wink


Hi all,
PowerKnight I had an experience that sounds like yours. It was September 2006. I just finished cancer treatment, had a medical problem here and was at home after a hospital visit. It was the middle of the night. I was asleep and someone stroking my hair woke me up. I thought it was my husband, I rolled over to look but he was facing the other way with his back to me. Then I freaked out. It was someone stroking my hair and it was enough to wake me up. I have no idea who it was. I know when I'm dreaming. I wasn't dreaming.
Crystal
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by PowerKnight on Dec 12th, 2011, 2:10pm

Hi WingsofCrystal, we the people who have experienced these real events and we know they were real events that really took place but because the actual needed proof ie physical proof of certain evidence isn`t always there it`s often regarded as it had a plausible explanation and becomes very cliched.
I really hope you are doing well after receiving cancer treatment and my wishes are you are on the road to recovery, PowerKnight wink
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by WingsofCrystal on Dec 12th, 2011, 4:19pm

on Dec 12th, 2011, 2:10pm, PowerKnight wrote:
Hi WingsofCrystal, we the people who have experienced these real events and we know they were real events that really took place but because the actual needed proof ie physical proof of certain evidence isn`t always there it`s often regarded as it had a plausible explanation and becomes very cliched.
I really hope you are doing well after receiving cancer treatment and my wishes are you are on the road to recovery, PowerKnight wink


Hi PowerKnight,
I'm doing great now. No cancer. Thank you for the good thoughts. I had a phrase that I repeated constantly, "I'm not going and you can't make me!" grin

I only included that information because I've wondered if it was a family member that had passed on that was trying to comfort me. It scared the crap out of me that night but I thought about it later and it wasn't a negative experience. I still have no idea who it was. As you said, no proof, but I know what I experienced.
Crystal
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by PowerKnight on Dec 13th, 2011, 3:47pm

That`s very nice to know you sound as though you are winning, good luck to you at troubled times...one day I`m sure there will be cure from that dreadful disease once and for all.
My experience of what I commented on was way back and I must have been no more than eight years old. Three to four gentle strokes to my forehead and that was it, nothing like that ever happened again it spooked me, PowerKnight wink
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by WingsofCrystal on Dec 13th, 2011, 6:56pm

on Dec 13th, 2011, 3:47pm, PowerKnight wrote:
That`s very nice to know you sound as though you are winning, good luck to you at troubled times...one day I`m sure there will be cure from that dreadful disease once and for all.
My experience of what I commented on was way back and I must have been no more than eight years old. Three to four gentle strokes to my forehead and that was it, nothing like that ever happened again it spooked me, PowerKnight wink


Even if it was a long time ago you certainly never forget it.
Crystal
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by UPBOB on Jan 18th, 2012, 3:41pm

I have read all eight pages of this thread and the fantastic experiences many of you have had. While I have never seen a ghost, I have communicated with spirits and dabbled in spiritualism. This has led me to believe that, yes, we can communicate across the vail that seperates our dimension and another dimension where our spirits go when we pass this life. I have been told by spirits that ghosts are spirits that have not crossed the vail for various reasons, after their physical body has died. Some people are sensitive enought to be able to see these spirits and others to just sense their presence. I can occasionally sense their presence but have neve seen one. This fits into what I have recently found to be part of the Celtic Christian theology. Celtic Christianity is something I have always believed but never heard abouit until a few years ago.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Jan 26th, 2012, 3:19pm

First of all I would like to state clearly that shadow people are not ghosts or entities but are a species in their own right and whom ET seems extremely interested in. but we don’t want to talk about shadow people, now the spooky stuff lol. My son is staying with us along with his girl friend for a while to help get this place up and running. Every morning he keeps complaining that someone keeps banging on his bedroom door and the outside windows with heavy footsteps along the corridor. This along with different strong smells and dark shapes running at him, last night lol the lights blew in the sitting room then the banging was all around him and his girl friend reducing them to tears. I have told him he has to talk to them and face his fears and they will leave him alone, my wife and I are used to such and understand it can be harrowing but you can adapt to them over time. Lol it does not help that the couch in his bedroom is the one my brother-in-law’s daughter had her throat cut by her drugged up husband and still has the blood stains on it, I am keeping it in storage for him as he cannot bear to part with it. When I acquired this property it was for the alien activity ,abductions and sightings along with a large shadow people population so the ghosts are an added bonus lol and we have quite a few as this house has a shaded past. Wonder what tonight will bring.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Feb 1st, 2012, 08:27am

You could easily be right about the shadows Hyundisonata. They are famous for banging windows, doors, and such. This is one spook form I need not wonder about as I have had the pleasure myself. As was earlier stated, they seem to have a true dislike for skeptics. Perhaps because so many of them seem to take pleasure in scaring the skin off folks?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Feb 1st, 2012, 1:49pm

Only ever had one right up close and it was female as she turned and faced me showing her face and the smile she gave could melt the hardest of hearts, its something that will be with me for the rest of my life. They seem to wear some form of suit that gives a shimmering shadow effect and can move at fantastic speed. But you are right they do seem to enjoy playing games or pranks lol. Still haven’t a clue as to what or who they are only that I know ET seems to be very interested in them, maybe this is why ET is here and the reason they seem to disregard us mere humans. Its all one big jigsaw puzzle that’s outside our scope of imagination, we only get glimpses of the tip of the iceberg.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Feb 2nd, 2012, 02:52am

The girl I mentioned lived in a mobile home that was literally infested with them. One of them seemed to be protecting her from the remainder of the 'pack'. Only once did she suffer from a favorite trick they apparently loved to play. This never happened to me, but many people who hung out there claimed they had been 'held down' by them. They allegedly sat on their chest and they couldn't move. Once Jen said it had happened to her, but only once. Somebody claimed to have had contact with one of them, whether or not this is true I don't know. They had a name for him and said her was protecting her. It would make sense. She lived in that trailer for years without fear.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Feb 6th, 2012, 10:48am

I have been watching them for sometime and they clearly show emotion, can alter shape, be airborne as well as on the ground and reach fantastic speed very quickly, they live a nomad type life and seem unaffected by weather but do seem very wary of humanity. Maybe the ones I have witnessed are good as I believe they do have the ability to cause harm but I have had no problems to date, this could be the bases for demons and devils along with most hunting’s.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by freakshow on Jun 19th, 2012, 2:14pm

Icepick, the entity you described sounds to me like a demon called a nightmare. Their favorite prank is to sit on people as they sleep, and go into their minds and scare them until they wake up. Then, they can't move because this demons holding them down, scaring them more. I don't know for certain if nightmares are real, but it sounds like one of them took a liking to your friend. And shadow people are ghosts, whereas a shadow is a rogue thoughtform.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Jun 19th, 2012, 2:35pm

Sorry freakshow I have to disagree, the shadow people I have come across are a species that are intelligent and solid as you or me and are anything bar ghosts. Because they are outside the spectrum of our vision does not mean we can label them as ghosts as ghosts are energy of past humanity or any other species that have moved on from the material body. Nightmares I cannot comment on as I have never had one although I do class this involvement with ET as such.
Now out of curiosity why the name freakshow
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by freakshow on Jun 19th, 2012, 2:41pm

when talking about spirits, there are bound to be disagreements. And as for my name, I'm the awesomest freak you know. (being normal is so boring)
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Jun 19th, 2012, 3:00pm

Lol lol is there such a thing as normal; society would be extremely boring if everyone were a carbon copy.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Jun 19th, 2012, 11:23pm

on Jun 19th, 2012, 2:14pm, freakshow wrote:
Icepick, the entity you described sounds to me like a demon called a nightmare. Their favorite prank is to sit on people as they sleep, and go into their minds and scare them until they wake up. Then, they can't move because this demons holding them down, scaring them more. I don't know for certain if nightmares are real, but it sounds like one of them took a liking to your friend. And shadow people are ghosts, whereas a shadow is a rogue thoughtform.


Actually the Shadow People do fit better. Besides, these beings didn't sit on people when they slept, but when they were alone, awake, and vulnerable. I'm guessing that they fed on people's energy through fear.

The point is moot now anyway. After moving into a new house on the property, the lady in question tossed a moltov back through the door of that mobile on her last trip out. Those beings haven't been seen since.

Tim
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by freakshow on Jun 19th, 2012, 11:39pm

on Jun 19th, 2012, 11:23pm, icepick wrote:
Actually the Shadow People do fit better. Besides, these beings didn't sit on people when they slept, but when they were alone, awake, and vulnerable. I'm guessing that they fed on people's energy through fear.

The point is moot now anyway. After moving into a new house on the property, the lady in question tossed a moltov back through the door of that mobile on her last trip out. Those beings haven't been seen since.

Tim


...... I guess thats one way to solve the problem... Personally, I wouldn't mind this happening to me. If a guy can't handle a little paranormal attack, he cant handle me XD
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by icepick on Jun 20th, 2012, 12:27am

Whatever. I really got the impression these things weren't paranormal in the sense one thinks and told her so before she did that. It is entirely possible she actually killed them in the process. While this never happened to me, I did see the strange shadows on the walls and ceiling at times. I found the whole thing interesting, but she was scared silly.

Everyone described the start of an attack the same way. Like a cloud of very small flies crossing the room towards them. Once the weight was on them it was not visible. They couldn't breathe, but everybody was released in plenty of time. I'm convinced that these things were feeding.

But make no mistake about it. Not one person who had it happen to them was ready to repeat the experience. I would be highly surprised if you did not mind this experience.

I should probably clarify myself here. I am what you would call a perceptive individual, and have been so for just about 50 years. When I was 7 I nearly died from an illness. This is when it started. Add to this the fact that I am from the Appalachian Highlands where we are raised to pay attention to such things? The result is that I have had my share of such experiences and then some. While I have felt a benevolent presence before, the result is always the same when one makes itself known to you. It/they want something. This means violation of the spirit in most cases, and that is never pleasant.

Another, far more profound experience of mine can be found here at post number 12:

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=hauntings&num=1334673832&action=display&start=0

As I said, never a pleasant experience. Although having that chick latched to me for a few days was cool. She was pretty hot. At 16 that was a great benefit. But beyond that? Low Water Bridge never failed to make me nervous after that.

Tim
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Doug1951 on Mar 15th, 2013, 5:23pm

I've had several events take place where I've lived. My brother was once physically struck and injured by a spirit he had challanged in my house. Later, after my bother had been murdered, his spirit was in the house I live in now, he used to live here. He would turn our touch lamps on often and leave dimes all over the house and we could hear footsteps in his former upstairs bedroom. My mother had heard music coming from the same room. I contacted a medium who confirmed he had been murdered and guided him and a former owner who had died here, into the light.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Doug1951 on Mar 15th, 2013, 5:25pm

If anyone is interested I can give more information about my brother and other events that took place in our house.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Doug1951 on Mar 16th, 2013, 6:48pm

Spirits are people like we are but without the physical vehicle. We have the same powers they do.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Mar 16th, 2013, 7:06pm

on Mar 16th, 2013, 6:48pm, Doug1951 wrote:
Spirits are people like we are but without the physical vehicle. We have the same powers they do.


Hi Doug, I grew up in a haunted house and I would enjoy hearing about your experiences. I agree with your point about spirits are people but without the physical vehicle to a point. It's true some are simply the spirit of a human who's passed but others spirits can be much stronger darker energy. Dan
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by jjflash on Oct 30th, 2013, 5:40pm

A UK haunting and exorcism

Orlando Paranormal Examiner

October 30, 2013

Caroline Mitchell moved from her native Ireland to England about ten years ago. Three years ago her husband Neil, their four children and she came under what Mitchell described on her website as sustained paranormal attack from an unknown entity. That eventually resulted in an exorcism conducted at their home in Essex where, although they temporarily vacated the house, they continue to live today. 'Orlando Paranormal Examiner' requested permission to pose some questions to Mitchell which she cooperatively granted, and her statements were received Tuesday.

Full article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/a-uk-haunting-and-exorcism
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by skizicks on Oct 30th, 2013, 10:21pm

Ice,
Being raised in Appalachia gave you a chance to grow up with out being told every day that such things do not exist.
Our ancestors grew up in that kind of world and were closer and more in tune to the world around them.
Sadly most of us did not get that education and therefore see those of you that did as weird, superstitous, yokels.
Too bad really.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GForce on Oct 31st, 2013, 11:15pm

on Oct 30th, 2013, 5:40pm, jjflash wrote:
A UK haunting and exorcism

Orlando Paranormal Examiner

October 30, 2013

Caroline Mitchell moved from her native Ireland to England about ten years ago. Three years ago her husband Neil, their four children and she came under what Mitchell described on her website as sustained paranormal attack from an unknown entity. That eventually resulted in an exorcism conducted at their home in Essex where, although they temporarily vacated the house, they continue to live today. 'Orlando Paranormal Examiner' requested permission to pose some questions to Mitchell which she cooperatively granted, and her statements were received Tuesday.

Full article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/a-uk-haunting-and-exorcism


Interesting article JJ. Anyone who's ever had a ghostly paranormal experience can relate. Plus those stories sell and are often turned into movies. Maybe I should write a book on my ghostly encounters? I did grow up in a haunted house.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by jjflash on Nov 1st, 2013, 6:32pm

on Oct 31st, 2013, 11:15pm, GForce wrote:
Interesting article JJ. Anyone who's ever had a ghostly paranormal experience can relate. Plus those stories sell and are often turned into movies. Maybe I should write a book on my ghostly encounters? I did grow up in a haunted house.


Glad you found the article interesting, GForce. Thanks.

Anything in particular you'd like to share about the house you grew up in?
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by hyundisonata on Nov 2nd, 2013, 03:38am

Lol her fun has only started boy is she in for hell, her biggest problem will be when it all starts up again and she tries to run from it. she is the first that I have come across that mentioned the phone experience, we had that for over a year the silent calls night and day that we took for some crank so we blew whistles down the phone and gave verbal abuse but it continued so we involved the police who had the line checked only to find the calls where coming from our upstairs extension that I promptly ripped out of the wall and yip no more silent calls. We also made the same mistake of approaching the church and got the holy water mumbo jumbo that worked for a short spell then it flared up and the bad luck and family destruction started. It took many years and many sleepless nights before I wised up and learned how to deal with it, you never will be free of it but you can live in harmony with it.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by jjflash on Jan 3rd, 2014, 11:20am

Otherworld North East takes down to earth approach to ghost genre

Orlando Paranormal Examiner

January 3, 2014

Lee Munro conducts investigations and research with Otherworld North East (OWNE), a British not-for-profit association that aims to objectively examine evidence of ghosts and alleged supernatural occurrences. Researchers work primarily in the northeast of England but will consider conducting investigations in additional geographic areas. 'Orlando Paranormal Examiner' recently obtained permission to pose some questions to Munro about OWNE and its activities. The questions and his responses, received Thursday by email, are provided below.

Full article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/otherworld-north-east-takes-down-to-earth-approach-to-ghost-genre?cid=db_articles
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Peterg42 on Sep 20th, 2014, 07:24am

on Oct 31st, 2005, 1:51pm, B J Booth wrote:
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Welcome to "Ghosts and Hauntings" moderated by Global Moderator Nocomis.


Nice picture, Ghosts are those spirits that don’t find their place and stay in the human world even after death.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by skizicks on Sep 21st, 2014, 9:10pm

Welcome Peterg, but just what a ghost is is open to debate.
I know that many believe as you stated but there is also another train of thought. Some writings state that the dead sleep and have no memories of their lives.
These beliefs suggest that what we call ghosts are not lost souls but rather what was once called familur spirits. These beings are tricksters in that they pretend to be the dead as a means of playing with the living.
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by jjflash on Jan 9th, 2015, 5:00pm

Entertaining piece in this month's newsletter from Rosemary Ellen Guiley about Gram Parsons. He's that deceased musician some of you may recall whose friends stole his corpse to grant his wish of being cremated in the desert. Ms. Guiley visited the room where Mr. Parsons died, visited the spot his corpse was burned in the desert, and writes about it in the link below. Entertaining read.

The Short Life, Tragic Death, and Strange End of Gram Parsons: Hauntings in Joshua Tree
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by Lynn on May 30th, 2016, 5:12pm

I`m new here and didn`t know if there was a thread that already existed on pic of ghost. I caught this on a game cam that i had. I sat it up lookin at my bed cause there was strange things happening when i was asleep. anyway in this pic im lying on my back on the right side of the bed, the pic was bigger but i cut it out cause you could see my wife in it on the left side but in between us it looks like a white fog or ?? came out of between the sheets on layed over me as you can see the hands were outreached over the side of the bed, you can barely see under it but im completely covered and the sheets were not moving like it was me that was the cause of it,what do you all think?User Image
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by notdej on May 30th, 2016, 5:29pm

on May 30th, 2016, 5:12pm, Lynn wrote:
I`m new here and didn`t know if there was a thread that already existed on pic of ghost. I caught this on a game cam that i had. I sat it up lookin at my bed cause there was strange things happening when i was asleep. anyway in this pic im lying on my back on the right side of the bed, the pic was bigger but i cut it out cause you could see my wife in it on the left side but in between us it looks like a white fog or ?? came out of between the sheets on layed over me as you can see the hands were outreached over the side of the bed, you can barely see under it but im completely covered and the sheets were not moving like it was me that was the cause of it,what do you all think?User Image


you (i assume) would have a better idea of what it is being clairvoyant
Re: Ghosts and Hauntings Discussion
Post by GhostofEd on May 30th, 2016, 5:53pm

Is this a screen capture from a video or was the camera taking a shot every few seconds or minutes and this is the only one that looks strange? What do the images before and after look like? Those should be posted too if you expect anyone to possibly explain it. I can't discern hands over the edge of the bed.


My guess based on what I see and know about the details i.e., really nothing, is that it could be a blur of a sheet, comforter(?) or pillow. How do you know you were not moving at the time? This is why if from a video you really need to provide it otherwise we are playing a game of 20 questions.