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Are Aliens Really Out There? ‘Close Encounters’ Scientist Gives His Opinion in AMA

Jacques Vallée says we shouldn't only be looking at outer space when it comes to intelligent life.

Joe Vince
November 30, 2015

Providing the inspiration for a character in a classic Steven Spielberg film is quite the large optical reflecting telescope in any astronomer’s observatory. Having that character then be played by famed French New Wave director François Truffaut is just the polish on the viewfinder.

But that’s one part of the multifaceted life of Jacques Vallée, the former astronomer, now current computer scientist, venture capitalist, and ufologist. Since being the basis for Claude Lacombe, a French government scientist in 1977’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Vallée has been researching and developing theories surrounding extraterrestrial and interdimensional phenomena.

“Recently my investigations have focused on UFO sightings from ancient antiquity up to the Industrial Revolution—prior to the innovation of manmade vehicles for flight that can cause confusion when witnessing a UFO,” Vallée wrote in an Ask Me Anything thread he posted Sunday.

That research has led to multiple books as he pushes to inspire “future researchers to continue UFO investigations as part of mainstream science.” During his AMA, Vallée fielded questions about his own UFO experiences, the possibility of life on other planets—or in other dimensions—and what the government really knows about aliens from outer space.

Here are some of the highlights:

What’s Your Definition of a UFO?


Jacques: You’ve hit on a significant problem: There is no unique definition for a UFO; Remember, the Air Force invented the term for aerial phenomenon that didn’t match natural explanations, but what people are reporting goes way beyond that, like luminous “orbs” going through bedroom walls: is that a UFO or not?

Have You Had a Real-Life UFO Experience?

Jacques: Yes, in France as a college student, a disk with a half-dome in the sky about half a kilometer away. The next day another student whose house was up the hill another half-kilometer away told me he’s seen the same thing through binoculars. At the time I convinced myself it was some sort of prototype that would be revealed eventually, but as we know now there is no such thing. It hovered at low altitude for about 10 minutes at least.

What UFO Sightings Have Been the Most Compelling?


Jacques: There are several classic cases in the USAF files that would deserve a lot more study, like the observations on board an electronic intelligence aircraft (RB47) that detected a UFO both visually and on radar over the Gulf of Mexico and was followed across Texas and Oklahoma by the object.

The date was 17 July 1957. The plane was a Boeing Stratojet. The case is one of 800 carried as “Unidentified” by the Air Force.

And yes, by the way, I have plans for future investigations.


What is the most convincing case (and/or documented) that you have studied?

Jacques: There is a large number of cases that pass the “serious” screen: cases with unexplained physical traces and multiple witnesses over significant duration, etc. but I mostly look for overall patterns that can characterize the phenomenon as a whole. One especially significant case took place at Valensole in France years ago and has never been explained: a landing with physical traces and two “beings” that paralyzed the witness. The French governemnt space agency has has a long-term group of investigation about such cases and I am on their advisory committee. Valensole has never been explained. Of course the paralysis has many scientists very interested. UFOs have many physiological impacts on humans.

How Do You Conduct Your Research?

Jacques: My approach is that you have to catalog reports before you can identify the phenomenon. I try to do this is stages as more information comes to light. I also go out to investigate, of course.

When you investigate, what factors are you looking for?
(And if I may throw in another question, has your research led you to a conclusion on the existence of visitors from another world or time (time travel)?)


Jacques: Absolutely I first screen for the usual confusion factors and I focus on cases that have not been sensationalized, where I have access to the site and to the witnesses themselves. Note that of course 90% of all reports can be explained with natural causes, of course.

How Many Other Planets Can Support Human Life?


Jacques: Among the 2000+ planets identified so far there may not be life similar to ours (the planets are too big or in orbits that would not be conducive to life but given the many billions of worlds out there a planet similar to ours is very likely. Of course one of the challenges is to define what we mean by “life.” There could be other forms of consciousness (an intelligent plasma?) that we haven’t discovered.

About stage of development, all you can do is make the assumption that we would be about average, meaning there would be many civilizations far ahead of us.

Are Aliens Living Among Us? Have They Been On This Planet?


Jacques: I’m not sure the distance issue is an argument: new physics (like wormholes) would allow very fast communication among distant parts of the universe and perhaps also transport. Life and consciousness must exist everywhere. The UFO phenomenon has been with us on this planet since recorded history — that’s what our book is about. It doesn’t mean “Aliens” in the usual sense, though. There could be multiple dimensions.

They would have to be very close to us genetically, or whatever is sending “them” would have to manufacture their bodies consistent with human physiology. But there are other hypotheses. The phenomenon could be creating a sort of virtual reality illusion through which various entities could be acting among us.

What Does the Government Really Know About UFOs?

Jacques: I couldn’t give you a percentage, but I’d have to assume the US government knows far more than I do or at least has far more DATA than I do. The problem is what they would do with that data, it could easily fall through the cracks, each agency trying to deal with little parts of it without anyone looking at the whole thing. So they probably just dismiss much of it, as the Air Force did. Rather than “disclosure” I would much prefer to see them acknowledge that there is an unknown phenomenon and call for the scientifuic community to compete by submitting proposals for basic research. That’s the way the Internet started: many teams wrote proposals for networking, ARPA selected the best 10 or so and funded them, reviewed the results a year or two later, refunded the best ones and so on. That’s the best way to do research, on a competitive basis by enlisting the best minds in various domains.

One thing we do know for sure is that the UFO phenomenon is extremely complex and doesn't just boil down to “Aliens”.

Should Private Companies Being Exploring Space?

Jacques: I think NASA is absolutely right in transferring LEO missions (Low Earth Orbit) to private enterprise, which has both the resources and the the motivation to do a good job. Long-range missions like the plans for Mars have to be the focus of NASA in the future. I wish there was more funding for some aspects of the NASA work, especially human factors (and research on microgravity) which could lead to medical breakthroughs down here on earth.

Will There Ever Be Undeniable Proof of UFOs?


Jacques: We may not see a complete cure for cancer in our lifetime, or a complete explanation for how our own brains work, so why should we expect to have an undeniable proof that UFOs exist? We have the same problem with ghosts, or artificial intelligence. But UFO witnesses are telling the truth and you can validate the patterns of what they describe, so the phenomenon undeniably exists. What we lack to call that a “proof” is a new scientific category (an “ontology”) where we can put it.

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xx Re: New Interview With Jacques Vallee
« Reply #1 on: Dec 1st, 2015, 9:21pm »

Ivan T Sanderson claims since the world is 66% water, UFO's are from our oceans.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 1st, 2015, 10:02pm »

Great great piece Swamp..I had almost thought he gave up at the end..something certainly seems to have re energized him..
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 2nd, 2015, 07:48am »

Yes...thanks for posting that interview.
Dr Vallee has always been at the forefront of investigations and ideas regarding the ufo enigma.


link to the whole session on Reddit....
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3url1s/i_am_dr_jacques_vall%C3%A9e_a_computer_scientist_and/?amp=&+Tech=
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 3rd, 2015, 9:32pm »

on Dec 2nd, 2015, 07:48am, drwu23 wrote:
Yes...thanks for posting that interview.
Dr Vallee has always been at the forefront of investigations and ideas regarding the ufo enigma.


link to the whole session on Reddit....
vhttps://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3url1s/i_am_dr_jacques_vall%C3%A9e_a_computer_scientist_and/?amp=&+Tech=


fixed and thanx Doc the V infront of https made it a null link
It works fine without it
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3url1s/i_am_dr_jacques_vall%C3%A9e_a_computer_scientist_and/?amp=&+Tech=

loved some of his gems

What's your interpretation of Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey film?

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I see it as early recognition that space, time and consciousness are intricately linked together.

http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/fileadmin/documents/15_VALLEE_abs.pdf (abstract)

http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/fileadmin/documents/15_VALLEE_full.pdf (full paper)

http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/fileadmin/documents/15_VALLEE_sli.pdf (lecture notes)

https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.12/original/566053e6c36188a8278b45a1.jpg

Among the 2000+ planets identified so far there may not be life similar to ours (the planets are too big or in orbits that would not be conducive to life but given the many billions of worlds out there a planet similar to ours is very likely. Of course one of the challenges is to define what we mean by "life." There could be other forms of consciousness (an intelligent plasma?) that we haven't discovered.


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