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xx Bob Lazar 25 Years Later
« Thread started on: Feb 4th, 2016, 10:10pm »

I'm not a Bob Lazar fan. I've always believed that his stories were just that. He does tell an interesting story and he certainly seems believable, but many of his claims, such as education, do not check out, so everything he says is colored with that fact. In any case, here is the interview which was done fairly recently (within the past few years).

P.S. I haven't found this posted anywhere here at Casebook, but if it is please let me know.



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xx Re: Bob Lazar 25 Years Later
« Reply #1 on: Feb 6th, 2016, 2:37pm »

One of Lazar's claims is that they were working with Element 115 which was the key to controlling gravity. The material was allegedly harvested from alien craft. For more scientifically based information on Element 115, click here.

I find a couple of things interesting about Lazar's narrative. I've sometimes wondered if our visitors were actually more intelligent than us, which enabled their ability to travel here, or if they sort of "fell into it" because a naturally occurring element (like 115) was abundant in their neck of the woods. Lazar speculates the very same idea. He also adds that there are many isotopes of Element 115, and while the one we've discovered only exists for a fraction of a second, we just haven't discovered a stable version of it yet.

If indeed a stable version of Element 115 is naturally occurring, perhaps Earth has been stripped of it. That would make our visitors a bunch of thieves. sad

Another concept that I've thought about was that because the behavior of some objects is extremely erratic, seemingly blinking in and out of existence or moving instantaneously from one point to another, perhaps the manipulation of time was a factor. Well, Lazar claims that the gravity beam produced by the hardware he saw also stopped the flow of time. He described an experiment he was shown where a lit candle was placed in the beam and the flame stopped moving as if time stopped.

Lazar also mentions that he wondered why he was shown these things, and it worried him. He thinks that perhaps some wanted him to talk about what he saw at Area 51.

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xx Re: Bob Lazar 25 Years Later
« Reply #2 on: Feb 6th, 2016, 5:12pm »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar
(general info for those who don't know much about him)
Even Mr Friedman, a staunch supporter of Roswell and ET in general ,discounts his story.

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xx Re: Bob Lazar 25 Years Later
« Reply #3 on: Feb 6th, 2016, 5:28pm »

on Feb 6th, 2016, 5:12pm, drwu23 wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar
(general info for those who don't know much about him)
Even Mr Friedman, a staunch supporter of Roswell and ET in general ,discounts his story.


Yes, Friedman calls him a fraud based on the lies he told about his education. I read somewhere that he has softened his opinion of him, but I have no idea why.

I posted this video not because I have much confidence in his story, but because some of the things he says are interesting, and there may be a slim chance that he's telling the truth. I wouldn't put any money on it though. If you haven't done it yet, I think the interviews are worth watching.

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xx Re: Bob Lazar 25 Years Later
« Reply #4 on: Feb 7th, 2016, 10:05am »

on Feb 6th, 2016, 5:28pm, nofooln wrote:
Yes, Friedman calls him a fraud based on the lies he told about his education. I read somewhere that he has softened his opinion of him, but I have no idea why.

I posted this video not because I have much confidence in his story, but because some of the things he says are interesting, and there may be a slim chance that he's telling the truth. I wouldn't put any money on it though. If you haven't done it yet, I think the interviews are worth watching.

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I have watched several of his interviews over the years (Started that one but got interrupted), and read several more. Dr Vallee also recounts an interview with him in one of his books which I'll try to locate for you. In Vallee's talk he asked Lazar to produce the element 115 which Lazar claims he stole from area 51...of course he had some excuse why he couldn't do that (of course as you pointed out it isn't a stable element on earth.)IMO another indicator of his deceptions.
His education and work records are both wrong based on his own tales and he has never provided any documentation of his claims. The only interesting thing was that he did produce, many years ago, a wage stub showing his name implying he worked for the government under the office of the Navy. But others have said he could have gotten hold of a blank one somehow (a friend , a forgery, etc..) and just filled in his name, etc.

My suspicion is mostly raised by the fact that the military running a top secret alien research facility wouldn't hire a very basic engineer like him when there are so many brilliant scientists who would jump at the chance to work there. What could Lazar have learned that far more qualified people couldn't?
I have always thought he was in a menial support position there that had nothing to do with aliens (perhaps he heard and saw some things while there...), but because of the base's rep he capitalized on it to sell a tale to his friends and others to make him look like somebody ...or after they fired him for being a liability they let him spout 'nonsense' since it served their purposes.
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xx Re: Bob Lazar 25 Years Later
« Reply #5 on: Feb 7th, 2016, 2:04pm »

Bob Lazar could be a fraud, or maybe not.

But, he has hidden from the public for 25 years until the 2015 International UFO Congress got him to speak.

I do not think, until just recently, Bob has made money off of his UFO stories.

Not going for the money kinda makes me think he could be telling the truth.

I watched the History Channel about the government taking gold inventory at Fort Knox.

Believe it or not, they hired just local town people to do the counting.

And speaking of Fort Knox, it was noted that other things were stored there, and they even mentioned maybe the crashed Roswell ship.

Queen Elizabeth's jewels were stored at Fort Knox during WWII.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 8th, 2016, 3:17pm »

^ Lazar is one of those troublesome cases in the ufo arena. Some of the things he says sound kosher and others do not. His credentials don't check out yet he seems sincere when he speaks.
I have never accepted the idea that the govt did anything to his records or falsified or changed his personal information. If he did attend and work at those places previously then people there would have recalled him yet he has never tried to present that proof. He has never named any names of who exactly hired him or the full names of those he worked with at 'area 51' or why he was even hired in the first place when he was not a highly trained engineer. As far as I know he has not talked about the airplane rides to and from the base which is the way all outside people get in there. What was the pilots name, names of other passengers..? Protocols on entering and leaving and a whole host of other questions he could be asked that I have never heard answered or even asked of him. Many unanswered questions including why George Knapp the reporter didn't ask all these a long time ago.
And of course the main one being element 115 which was mentioned above in his interview. He claimed he took some home then denied being able to produce it for anyone to see when Dr Vallee interviewed him all those years ago. Why?
A very troublesome case.
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xx Re: Bob Lazar 25 Years Later
« Reply #7 on: Feb 12th, 2016, 8:43pm »

on Feb 6th, 2016, 5:28pm, nofooln wrote:
I posted this video not because I have much confidence in his story, but because some of the things he says are interesting, and there may be a slim chance that he's telling the truth.


Oh to live in a fantasy, must be great... Still, why not. kinda like spending money doing the lottery: 'highly unlikely but ya never know"...wink

I spend money on the lottery- why not. At least I know the lottery really exists

Have fun.

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