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xx Re: Speculation: water and Life inside the Moon
« Thread started on: Jul 6th, 2016, 8:54pm »

I have a question!!!!! Moon does not spin on it's axis! Pretty sure not a hell of a lot of water on the bright side so most of this water must be on the dark side!

How would earths gravity effect it? If in lake form on the surface, how does it remain in place with less gravity and no rotation?


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Wouldn't the Moon flip over with all that weight on one side eventually? J/K
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xx Re: Speculation: water and Life inside the Moon
« Reply #1 on: Jul 6th, 2016, 9:22pm »

Who says the moon does not rotate?
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xx Re: Speculation: water and Life inside the Moon
« Reply #2 on: Jul 6th, 2016, 10:08pm »

This is a nice overall look at the moon and it's properties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon

Regarding rotation:
"The Moon is in synchronous rotation: it rotates about its axis in about the same time it takes to orbit Earth. This results in it nearly always keeping the same face turned towards Earth. The Moon used to rotate at a faster rate, but early in its history, its rotation slowed and became tidally locked in this orientation as a result of frictional effects associated with tidal deformations caused by Earth.[117] The side of the Moon that faces Earth is called the near side, and the opposite side the far side. The far side is often inaccurately called the "dark side", but in fact, it is illuminated as often as the near side: once per lunar day, during the new moon phase we observe on Earth when the near side is dark."

(Sadly all of this information would be lost on our esteemed member in the other thread who believes it's all a conspiracy to keep us in the dark. No pun intended btw)


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xx Re: Speculation: water and Life inside the Moon
« Reply #3 on: Jul 6th, 2016, 10:35pm »

Pink Floyd wouldn't lie to me Doc! Although I did have that on a loop for 4 days once under the influence of dubious substances. so I could be wrong!
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xx Re: Speculation: water and Life inside the Moon
« Reply #4 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 04:54am »

Ah yes, the Moon's rotation.

This is one of those situations where you have to be very careful to use the right terminology, and to qualify it.

The Moon does not rotate around its own polar rotation in the same way the Earth does. Its axis of rotation is somewhere inside the Earth. This is why we on Earth always see the same surface, more or less.
An observer positioned outside Earth will see all the Moon's surface as it rotates around the Earth.

As for the gravity shift. Don't forget the Sun effects the Moon. More so when the Moon is on the Sun side of the Earth. Less so when the Earth is between the Sun and the Moon. This pretty much explains 'Moon quakes'.

So, does the Moon rotate around an axis ? Yes, but not it's own polar axis.

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« Reply #5 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 2:29pm »

According to the web sites I have read it does rotate on it's own axis...just very slowly ......or am I interpreting this wrong?
http://www.space.com/24871-does-the-moon-rotate.html

"The moon orbits the Earth once every 27.322 days. It also takes approximately 27 days for the moon to rotate once on its axis. As a result, the moon does not seem to be spinning but appears to observers from Earth to be keeping almost perfectly still. Scientists call this synchronous rotation.

From the same web site:
"The moon tilts on its axis about 1.54 degrees ó much less than Earth's 23.44 degrees. This means the moon does not have seasons like Earth does. However, because of the tilt, there are places at the lunar poles that never see daylight."


Some more facts about the moon for those interested in facts, and rational thinking.....and not conspiracy delusions. wink

http://www.space.com/18067-moon-atmosphere.html
trace and not breathable...

http://www.space.com/7332-moon-water-game-changing-discovery.html
trapped as ice and bound up in the dirt but no liquid water standing around...
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 2:57pm »

HAL,
What do you make of this video and his comments? Do you have any idea where this alleged NASA image is from or is it from a Chinese orbiter... and if it's a fake, etc...?
I've seen many so-called moon images that purport to show structures and they mostly look like junk but this one does indeed look like buildings.
What's your take on this? Some of the you tube comments claim it's a hoax.....and that would also be my guess....but....?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKadoX3rfcE
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 3:18pm »

If you read the youtube comments on that video it will lead you to:

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-change-2-photos-of-alien-base-on-moon-hoax.t6174/

Yes, it's those evil skeptics again debunking but most of this nonsense deserves it. The posters and creators of these moon life conspiracy theories need to be held to the same standards they seem to demand by those who question them.

Here's a link from some of the metabunk comments to a pdf with interesting images and info from 1970.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19700021506.pdf
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:04pm »

Drwu,

It's like most similar stuff.

In the beginning the narrator is surprised that people from all over the world are at a NASA facility. Why is this ? NASA was always staffed by people from all over the place.
And from there follows the passing of supposedly top secret documents for a new arrival to see. How likely is that ?

The images become suitably out of focus just when it starts to get interesting.

I would suggest we just sit around and wait until some recognised international organization visits the scene and comes back with proper pictures.

There are some interesting pictures taken by the early Orbiter series Lunar satellites. And some of them leave you scratching your head.

But it is really pointless guessing what they are. We have no way of verifying anything.

Maybe some super spectacular find there that can be seen by semi professional astronomers from here will help.

Meanwhile, we wait.

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xx Re: Speculation: water and Life inside the Moon
« Reply #9 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:12pm »

ZOND 7 1969

At the top of this image is some thing that has my interest for a long time, also near the center and slightly to the left.
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:14pm »

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Yes, that top link really nails it.

But no doubt some will still say its a base, maybe a city.

The bright areas on the other image are, I believe, known as areas of high albedo. i.e. Highly reflective areas.

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« Reply #11 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:22pm »

MOKSHA,

Are you referring to the long straight lines ?

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« Reply #12 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:29pm »

Talingrid,

Nothing wrong with speculation. As long as you identify it as such.

I suppose that there could be some form of microbial life on the Moon. Pretty much like it is possible that they will find similar on Mars.

The Moon is far more hostile than Mars though.

And even if there were microbes found, they wouldn't be building cities; no matter how advanced they were.

MOKSHA,

After a day or so for us to examine it, could you please reduce the picture size. It makes following the text pretty difficult.

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« Reply #13 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:43pm »

Yes I see it

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« Reply #14 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:54pm »

on Jul 7th, 2016, 4:22pm, INT21 wrote:
MOKSHA,

Are you referring to the long straight lines ?

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HAL, I don't know how to make it smaller, so I deleted it, some one else already did, here is the link to all the images.

http://mentallandscape.com/C_Catalog.htm

To answer your question, "kinda" IMHO, it does look like structures,
whether they are natural or artificial IDK, but I have studied them,
long time now.

also the stuff in LUNA 9
WOW
not sure what to make of it.
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