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xx Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Thread started on: Nov 14th, 2014, 10:39pm »

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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #1 on: Nov 15th, 2014, 11:50am »

IMO...no, and people have been saying that for over 20 years now.
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #2 on: Nov 15th, 2014, 4:48pm »

Maybe the government already disclosed and the truth was rejected.
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #3 on: Nov 15th, 2014, 5:13pm »

on Nov 15th, 2014, 11:50am, drwu23 wrote:
IMO...no, and people have been saying that for over 20 years now.


Parts of disclosure will not ever happen! I think most of the triangles or circular craft witnessed may well be black projects and programs. IF aliens are visiting and the government knows about it then it will only come forward when aliens make it known. Top secret programs or documents won't ever be released freely especially any that deal with the true origin of these craft.
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #4 on: Nov 15th, 2014, 5:21pm »

on Nov 15th, 2014, 4:48pm, dave54 wrote:
Maybe the government already disclosed and the truth was rejected.


How so...?
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #5 on: Nov 15th, 2014, 5:23pm »

on Nov 15th, 2014, 5:13pm, GForce wrote:
Parts of disclosure will not ever happen! I think most of the triangles or circular craft witnessed may well be black projects and programs. IF aliens are visiting and the government knows about it then it will only come forward when aliens make it known. Top secret programs or documents won't ever be released freely especially any that deal with the true origin of these craft.


I agree about the black tris...they could easily be experimental airforce craft.
If the gubbermint has real knowledge of aliens they aren't going to come clean unless forced to do so.
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #6 on: Nov 15th, 2014, 8:46pm »

My take on it from an article last year (see link below for full post and supporting links):

The more thought one gives the concept of disclosure, the more complex they realize it to be. Some therefore argue that reasonable skepticism dictates we must consider the extent of impracticality in demanding the White House address an alleged extraterrestrial intelligence. Following are some of the reasons that is the case.

The ETH may be incorrect

Let's start with square one: There may be no aliens present; the extraterrestrial hypothesis might not be the correct explanation to any UFO sightings or reported alien abductions at all. We cannot very well demand confirmation of something that might not even be accurate.

Politically inadvisable

One would be hard pressed to identify a less attractive political platform for elected officials than addressing the UFO phenomenon. Any given politician would have to take a specific interest in directing their staff to prioritize wading through the virtually endless amounts of tales, files and red tape, all while shelving their current projects and priorities. Doing so would result in spending inordinate amounts of time and funds while very possibly producing no more, if not less, information than is already widely known throughout the UFO community.

Declassification is a specific process

The release of classified data, UFO-related or otherwise, is a specific process. It is not simply a matter of those who may have access to interesting information making a choice to share it. Channels and protocol must be followed. Learn more at the National Declassification Center.

Lack of public interest

This might be the proverbial nail in the coffin of disclosure. If officials could initiate a probe into UFOs and subsequently ride a wave of public support into their next elected office, the probe would indeed soon be underway but they cannot.

Petitions to the White House related to disclosure are failing to produce signatures. UFO conventions do well to attract even a few hundred attendees, and some events have been canceled due to lack of interest. Disclosure activists tell us the UFO phenomenon is the most important issue to ever face humanity, but, if that is so, it appears the vast majority of people are either unaware or uninterested. The Mutual UFO Network stated on its website that it has about 3,000 members worldwide, hardly a demographic justifying politicians scrap their current platforms in favor of asking around Capitol Hill about aliens.

Military and intelligence implications

Along with an overall lack of public interest in the UFO phenomenon, its potential use as a tool to the intelligence community may be among the most damaging circumstances to hopes of official disclosure. This is indeed where we find some of the most oversimplified - and subsequently unrealistic - aspects of the disclosure movement.

It is not only possible but entirely likely that certain iconic UFO cases contain details remaining classified yet having absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with extraterrestrials. Cases such as Roswell, Rendlesham, the Gulf Breeze Six and many more may have relevant military and intelligence implications, disclosure of which might detrimentally effect ongoing operations and strategic options. While quite possibly having nothing to do with aliens, details of such operations and some of their related documents might very well remain classified and withheld long into the lifetimes of our descendants.

Such considerations bring the work to mind of British Major Jasper Maskelyne. A magician by trade, Maskelyne is credited with masterfully assisting allied forces in executing stunning deception operations during World War II. His trickery included misdirection on such grand scales as confusing enemies of the whereabouts of tank squadrons and camouflaging an entire British supply port.

A 1950 RAND (Research and Development) Corporation report submitted to the U.S. Air Force and titled, 'The Exploitation of Superstitions for Purposes of Psychological Warfare', referenced a deception operation apparently conducted by Maskelyne in Italy. As Nick Redfern reported, the extremely creative operation included circumstances strikingly similar to those of the Flatwoods Monster episode of UFO lore, including the manufacture of just such a 'monster'. The report interestingly predated the Flatwoods incident by two years. A more recent History Channel documentary stated that while some of Maskelyne's work is known, the complete exploits of his unit, curiously enough dubbed the Magic Gang, will not be considered for public review until the distant year of 2046.

We might be well advised to take such circumstances into account when considering the feasibility, or lack thereof, of official UFO disclosure. All that glitters is not gold, all that is UFO-related is not alien and intelligence agencies are in the business of confusing adversaries, not informing them.

Final thoughts

There may possibly be documents buried in the vaults of Washington that describe the existence of an advanced non-human intelligence among us. I am not qualified to say.

Disclosure activists might be worthy of respect and admiration in some cases. They have indeed managed to gather certain resources while surrounding themselves with people willing and able to help them pursue their goals, circumstances worthy of acknowledgment. They manage to coordinate their events, produce their films and staff their projects.

It is nonetheless for such reasons as listed above that disclosure activists are suspected in some cases of being simplistically naive if not dishonest. Perhaps others in their ranks become so biased in favor of the ETH that they lose abilities to accurately assess the complexities of the disclosure circumstances of which they demand. One way or another, it would seem impractical to expect Washington to legitimately address the UFO phenomenon in the foreseeable future.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/why-official-ufo-disclosure-impractical
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #7 on: Jan 2nd, 2015, 7:16pm »

As space prgs becomes more privatized FOIA value diminishes, as corporations don't have to respond, and are hardly inclined to answer. The gate has already begun to close, if it was ever open at all.
Only extremely out of the blue leaks like Wiki and Snowden will help at all. Worse, The boomers left are some of the only groups to attend..like cult classic gatherings for a Geritol commercial., as younger people are very obviously absent, they have rarely read a book, and whose reality take appears quite different than ours...we are on different pages now.....Last Men Standing..literally unless you throw in Linda as the womens reps..not exactly a rallying point.
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #8 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 2:20pm »

In answer to the question posed by the originaj post.
This past weeks release by the FBI has hardly caused a stir
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #9 on: Mar 19th, 2015, 09:20am »

HI! Forget it, they will never disclose anything, because they would lose the power in that very instant.

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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #10 on: Jun 14th, 2015, 09:43am »

on Mar 19th, 2015, 09:20am, metallman wrote:
HI! Forget it, they will never disclose anything, because they would lose the power in that very instant.

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100% agree with you also if disclosure happened and a big if how would it affect the world?
religion would be in chaos fallen angels etc people maybe realising god does not exist

also should imagine the americans have fueless craft which means oil not needed billions of dollars lost in revenue and the fall of from that with companies
and there be other complications arising from disclosure so much alien tech they have it would bilow our minds, maybe goverment s would fall
and chaos looms
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #11 on: Jun 14th, 2015, 11:29am »

If Podesta the Great White Hope of Ufology's disclosure movement says this

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-campaign-chairman-cant-defend-flip-flops-you-know-times-change/article/2566227
Hillary campaign chairman can't defend flip-flops: 'You know, times change'

What makes you so sure Disclosure is even on the table ? smiley
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #12 on: Sep 24th, 2015, 11:26am »

I look at it this way: Human technology is expanding at an accelerated pace and will most likely continue to do so.
At some point in our future disclosure will take place.
The question is not so much if, but when.

Try to think about it this way...Just a few hundred years ago the people of earth could not believe what our lives would be like today.

It is hard for most of us to put ourselves in the shoes of the people living in the jungle today, and many of them would be ill equipped to transition into living in a modern city.

On a side note: Some of our city folks think as if they may do better in a jungle.
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #13 on: May 26th, 2016, 03:00am »

Just came across this. Could be interesting.


Barack Obama 'will reveal alien and UFO details held by the US before he leaves office'



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/barack-obama-will-reveal-alien-8044306
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xx Re: Is Government on the Verge of Disclosure
« Reply #14 on: May 26th, 2016, 09:03am »

^Welcome back railwayender....

I think that piece was posted here in a different thread a little while back.....but the 'disclosure meme' has been around for well over 2 decades now and so far nothing has happened.
If the gubbermint has something to disclose, imo they won't unless forced to do so by circumstances.
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