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« Thread started on: Feb 29th, 2008, 3:43pm »

02/29//08

Fellow Researchers,

If you've visited http://www.coasttocoastam.com recently, you may have seen and read the breaking news, I'm posting here in more depth.

Firstly, I'm the founder of the Denton Area Paranormal Society (DAPS) http://www.dapsghost.com. Fellow DAPS investigators, Bob and Todd (names changed to protect their identity), came forward at our meeting on February 19th with a mind-blowing story.

What follows is a recounting of what befell Bob on a fateful date this past January...

Having caught a late night movie at a theater in the area, Bob dropped off his friend, Todd, before heading home. With the soaring price of gas, Bob decided to take a deserted country road back to his place, which served as a shortcut. Around 2:00AM in the early morning of Jan 21st, Bob drove East on Copper Canyon Rd. Driving over a railroad crossing, at a sharp bend in the road, something otherworldly suddenly appeared from behind a tree to his left!

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The photo above was taken of the illustration Todd drew, after Bob reported to him that he'd seen an "alien" in late January.

Slamming on his brakes, Bob was stunned as a thin, gaunt, hairless, long arm, long legged creature, suddenly was caught in the high beams of his headlights. Less than 20 feet away, this weird, 5 foot tall, slumped forward, long fingered entity darted smoothly across the road, alarmingly in 2 seconds flat! However, the real shocker came when it stopped under the yellow light of a streetlamp looming overhead, then turned, glancing in his direction!

Like the eyes of a cat, yellow light reflected back at Bob as he tried fighting off the fear of the unknown. A riot of conflicting emotions and questions flooded over him. What the hell was it? What was it going to do?

Even as all this began welling up, he stared wide-eyed and shaken, as the unexplained nocturnal visitor silently turned and resumed fast, gracefully sliding strides, thankfully away to his right. Bob's mind whirled as he watched it quickly squeeze through the partially open gate of a driveway. Within moments, while Bob's lungs finally filled with short, agitated breaths, the thing vanished into a line of woods on the far side of a field to the SE.

It was so difficult for Bob to come to terms, let alone grasp, what to do after seeing something so profoundly peculiar, at such point blank range. In an absolute state of shock, the rest of his drive home was a blur. Closing and locking the door firmly behind him, the true nature of reality wrestled with everything he had personally ever known. Therefore, it was only natural that he refrained from openly sharing what had happened, fearful people would think him crazy.

Eventually though, he told his friend, Todd, days later. Being something of a hand as a graphic artist, Todd worked extensively with Bob to successfully reproduce the detailed illustration of the being I've termed, the Creature of Copper Canyon.

If all this wasn't already amazing enough, earlier that very evening, around the stroke of midnight, Mary and I witnessed a glowing, amber colored, chevron shaped object zooming through the sky. The UFO appeared to only be about 1000 feet up, and moved like a stone skipping across the surface of the water. Looking up through our car's wind shield, we watched the flying object travel SE down McKinney Rd, for the approximate 2 seconds it was visible.

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The picture of the UFO above was taken by Charles Miller, in North Carolina, in 2007; found posted on http://www.ufo-reports.com

I've included it due to the striking similarity between it and the one my wife and I briefly saw on January 20th, 2008.

Remarkably, Tuesday, February 26th, Bob phoned, saying he had found the ticket stub, I'd asked him to look for, from the movie he had seen the night of his incident. Our mutual exclamations of surprise must have reverberated for miles, as nagging suspicion became instant realization. The UFO we had seen had taken place a couple of hours removed from Bob's sighting of the Creature of Copper Canyon!

For our part, I filed an official report of the UFO sighting with MUFON on January 21st, which can be viewed and verified as a case file at the site - http://www.mufon.com.

Through getting the image and story out into the arena of public opinion, which has begun by appearing on http://www.coasttocoastam.com, we're hopeful that our observations and ongoing research into this bizarre chain of events, may engender others to come forward and share what they know.

Thank You,
Lance, Founder
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 29th, 2008, 11:08pm »

Hi,

Thanks to a fellow researcher who brought it to my attention, below is the copy a humanoid report filed at - http://nuforc.org/

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National UFO Reporting Center Sighting Report
Occurred : 8/16/2005 21:00 (Entered as : 08/16/2005 21:00)
Reported: 8/18/2005 1:01:27 AM 01:01
Posted: 10/11/2005
Location: Wilmore, PA
Shape: Unknown
Duration:Short
Humanoid spotted in Wilmore, PA

Saw a humanoid figure about 7 to 8 feet in height and very thin. Had arms almost as long as it's body. White in color. Neck arced down "hunching" appearance. Moved as if knees were in backward. only 1 visible.

seen while fishing at Wilmore Resevoir.

seen in more detail august 18th at 1am EST bout 1/8th of mile from gate near woodline in fenced area.

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The above case file sounds uncannily close to what Bob related to me. If anyone runs across a picture from that visitation, please post it.

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« Reply #2 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 10:55am »

First of all,I want to thank Lance for sending sketch of C. C. creature to Coast 2 Coast. When I saw it ,I tripped! I was returning to Houston from Reno (early 8os) ,driving thru the desert, August,2am,very bright Moon, about 60 mph,watching out for range roaming donkeys and horses. I was thinking,just get me back to Houston! Then when I turned and looked to my right,(husband and son sleeping in the back)there was this man-looking creature running right along-side of the car looking at me!I yelled Wake up! My husband jumped in the front,he saw it too. And then without missing a beat it jumped over the hood of the car and was gone!
The sketch was what we saw! My husband is now deseased. My son didn't get to see it.He is 37 now.I have mentioned it to him off and on thru thru the years.
So now, he knows what it looked like. It was very shocking to see something like that when you are with someone. But like"Bob" seeing it by himself, how traumatic that would be!
It feels so liberating to be able to talk about this to others. I really don't care what other people say, I just don't really ever get into that situation. And now since I found you guys I can tell y'all about the other "times" and still occuring . Ufos,Ets,paranormal,for me and my son,has just always been "normal" to us. But not always the most pleasant .

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« Reply #3 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 11:34am »

Yatahey,

I am so pleased you were able to make this connection! Your creature account is incredible. After Bob's humanoid case broke, prior to you, another investigator I 've known for some time related his own sighting to me. He saw something similar, one night in the desert by White Sands, New Mexico, around 1973.

Since I first had the privilege of reading you and your husband's bizarre experience, I've had another person email me about his own face to face encounter with what sounds like the same species. I'm hoping at some point he adds his own descriptives here. However, I'll go ahead and post what he sent me later.

All I can draw from the 5 cases reported to me, of these specific beings, which are the meaty portion on my research plate, is that they're non-hostile. They also seem damingly non-communicative. Then again, there is one, Dr. Boylan, who is 100% convinced that these are hyperintelligent Star Visitors, of the Altarian/Sirian hybrid bloodline.

Hmmm...

Whether they're some kind of unknown beasts, government science project gone wild, Snoop Dog Style, Enlightened Masters from the twinkling stars, or underground denizens of some lost Devonian age, time will tell.

Thanks!


on Mar 1st, 2008, 10:55am, witcheyred wrote:
First of all,I want to thank Lance for sending sketch of C. C. creature to Coast 2 Coast. When I saw it ,I tripped! I was returning to Houston from Reno (early 8os) ,driving thru the desert, August,2am,very bright Moon, about 60 mph,watching out for range roaming donkeys and horses. I was thinking,just get me back to Houston! Then when I turned and looked to my right,(husband and son sleeping in the back)there was this man-looking creature running right along-side of the car looking at me!I yelled Wake up! My husband jumped in the front,he saw it too. And then without missing a beat it jumped over the hood of the car and was gone!
The sketch was what we saw! My husband is now deseased. My son didn't get to see it.He is 37 now.I have mentioned it to him off and on thru thru the years.
So now, he knows what it looked like. It was very shocking to see something like that when you are with someone. But like"Bob" seeing it by himself, how traumatic that would be!
It feels so liberating to be able to talk about this to others. I really don't care what other people say, I just don't really ever get into that situation. And now since I found you guys I can tell y'all about the other "times" and still occuring . Ufos,Ets,paranormal,for me and my son,has just always been "normal" to us. But not always the most pleasant .

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« Reply #4 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 3:58pm »

What follows is an email exchange Iíve had over the last two days with, Ray. Due to job related concerns, at this point he wishes his identity to remain largely unknown. Thankfully, he has given me his expression permission to repost our dialog.

Iím sure those of you reading this will appreciate my strong desire to pass it alongÖ


Hello,

The thing in Toddís drawing seems identical to an encounter I and others had at around 22:00 at Bluff's Creek, in Van Cleave, Mississippi in 1974. It was standing by a tree at the waters edge of a small beach area that could only be reached via a difficult foot path. There was only one parking area, and it was about four hundred yards from this area at the main beach.

There were no other cars there when we arrived. We had no flashlights, but it was a clear moonlit might and visibility was excellent. I was leading the others through on the path through the growth to the smaller beach. I had just walked out of the brush onto the beach when those behind me gasped and whispered "Ray Stop!"

They had stopped at the tree line and I had walked about ten yards out onto, and towards this thing when that whispered gasp got my attention. I did not see it standing there until that moment. I thought it was a tall, bald headed man in the nude at first, as the moon had washed all color from the scene.

I was instantly frightened, and wondered what somebody would be doing out there, alone, in the dark, and at that time of night. I could here those behind me starting to move quickly back top the parking area, and realized they were leaving me alone.

I said "Hello!" in the loudest voice I could muster, and the thing turned its body to face me, keep its head oriented towards me at all times. There were no frontal features. I was absolutely terrified and the sound of my friends crashing through the brush to get away reminded me that I was growing more alone with this thing by the second.

I spun and ran back to the car as fast as possible. There were four cars involved, and the other three were peeling away when I reached the lot. Those that road with me were screaming for me to unlock the doors and get the hell out of there. There was about yard long, rutted dirt road that led back to a two lane highway, and I tore the muffler off of my Vega GT flying over the ruts.

We did not regroup that night, and all went back to there respective homes. There was no discussion in the car or afterwards about what happened. We all saw what we saw, and experienced the same terror, and conversation was not needed that night. But I do not know why it was never discussed, or why it was several years after before I began thinking again and pondering this bizarre event.

Sincerely,
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Hello Ray,

Now that's a close encounter! At least itís got to be somewhat comforting to know others have seen the same sort of thing. That should silence anyone that thought you were crazy!

I forwarded your email to our site, so Bob and Todd can read about your incident. Perhaps Bob might eventually discuss it with you. I'm elated you're sharing what happened to you, and your reactions. It really helps people get a better handle on this sort of bizarre situation.

Thanks!


Hi,

Thanks for keeping my name confidential, as it would absolutely have a negative impact on my job. Keeping this to a first name thing should be OK.

Thanks for the link to the forum and I will follow the dialog. The drawing clicked with me instantly and tweaked that unique feeling of fear. Kind of like when you smell something familiar that reminds you of a past event.

I wonder if the others have seen it, especially those who saw it before I did. There was one difference with the recent report as the thing we saw was about six feet tall.

I will follow the dialog a bit before I decide to post anything. I'm hoping one of the others has noticed this and they are there. Posting may be another way to get their attention.

Note that the area where this happened is near Pascagoula Mississippi, and we had a lot of UFO activity in the early and mid 70's. I lived in Pascagoula then, and was in that period that Charlie Hickson was abducted. The event at Bluff's Creek happened before the Hickson ordeal however, and I don't remember any UFO reports at that time. The flurry of sightings around the time of the Hickson event as I recall, which was a little later.

If Bob or Todd find anything useful in this event or have any questions I will be happy to talk with them. I look forward to seeing what your group comes up with, and wish you all the luck.

Thanks for email,
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 4:50pm »

Sent by Alan Ė

I read your submission on Coast-to-Coast.
So the creature was running around a wooded area at night? That, combined with the illustration, I'd say the Creature of Copper Canyon greatly resembles the Dover Demon.

I guess there's a high rate of thin, alien-like creatures running amuck in the night... in wooded areas.
Just as well, they seem to always pop out in dark places.

My mom was dating this guy about 10 years ago; his name is Joel. According to Joel, this happened while he was dating my mom. Joel was working in some dark tunnel (I forgot the details), but he was in there by himself with his tools, doing who-knows-what (it was something technical). He heard something that sounded like breathing, and it slowly got closer and closer. He finally shined his flashlight in the direction of the source, only to find a pale-skinned, round-headed, alien-type thing staring right at him. Joel was scared right out of his mind, and went running out of the tunnel.
That story was told to me by my mom; so you can't be too sure how diluted the details are by now.

I'm from Texas, and still live in Texas. I'm 21, and I'm not entirely convinced about these stories. But I give you the benefit of the doubt simply because 1 single strange thing has happened to me that nobody believes.

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Hello Alan,

I really appreciate that you've taken the time to write, and express your take on this all. I'm trying to walk a line, between being too skeptical on one side, and being a mindless drone from the ranks of Nancy Leader's Zetas on the other.

The connection you made with the Dover Demon is extremely helpful! Would you please consider reposting and elaborating on what you emailed to me in the following forum?

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=worldwide&action=display&num=1204321417&start=0#1204348119

I created that thread to give people the freedom to further discuss all aspects of the two cases involved here, recount their own, as well as share those they've heard about. Other sightings, like you mentioned, are so similar that it's a good idea to examine whether or not we're looking at the same type of unknown species.

My personal drive is to shine the light of reason into the darkness. Many have come out of the woodwork in response to getting this all out there, as I chose to do. Like you refer to, some never spoke a word of their own experiences out of fear of ridicule.

Too much time has been wasted by people that felt no encouragement to share what's happened to them. I for one am setting out to change that for the better!

Thank You Very Much!


Hey,

Thanks for your response. I would sign up for that message board, but I'm already signed up with a ton of websites, and the amount of spam I have to fight off every day is absurd. I would not mind if you chose to post a response on my behalf. You have my permission to post our emails verbatim on that thread.

Also, I found a website with an article about the Dover Demon; it details the original sighting: http://members.aol.com/soccorro64/doverdemon.htm

If you'd like to know more details about my mom's ex-boyfriend's experience, you're out of luck. I recounted as much of the story as I honestly remember. I can't ask Joel because I haven't seen him in about 7 years, and I don't know where he could be found. I also can't ask my mom for more details because I haven't seen her in about 4 years, and prefer not to speak to her anymore (family problems). This is why I say you've got my permission to post our emails verbatim on your thread.
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 4:55pm »

Here's a drawing of the Dover Demon...

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The picture and a lot more info on the creature can be found on the site -

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dd-42177/

Interesting, eh?

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« Reply #7 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 5:32pm »


These are the details of the sightings of the Dover Demon...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_demon


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« Reply #8 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 11:46pm »


I just got this in from a researcher named Ethan -


There's a youtube video supposedly showing a Chupacabra 'thing' running through the woods that looks almost identical to the illustration of the creature 'Bob' witnessed.

Check this out and notice the similarities. http://youtube.com/watch?v=V3sCYPR04uY

This creature sighting took place in Texas, right? Well, besides Mexico and the SW states, Texas is one of the places where Chupacabras are witnessed the most, though this creature goes against typical Chupacabra descriptions, in that it's more human-like and not at all like the squat demon creature that is usually seen sucking the blood from cows and chickens.

Personally, I think this pale human-like creature being seen and filmed is some sort of genetic crossbreed experiment that the government is doing. Whether they're mixing human DNA with animals or some kind of alien is a mystery, but I think that's what these 'thin man' sightings are of. Hope this helps some. Lots of weird stuff out there in the world. My own experiences are with Bigfoot, and have never seen this thin man creature, but it certainly is interesting.

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« Reply #9 on: Mar 2nd, 2008, 12:49am »

This part of an email exchange I've had with Chris...


Hey -

I enjoyed your entry on the coast website... It's compforting to hear you describe the movement of the light as a 'stone skipping across the water.' That's exactly how I describe what I saw... Very intriguing! Any insight as to why they move this way? Also, I've noticed an increase in UFO activity in general and have seen similarities in footage from around the world. Is it safe to say activity is at some sort of 'high point'

Chris


Hi Chris,

Thanks for writing! I've received a number of truly fantastic emails, and really want others to read and share their own experiences, like you.

For further discussion of the dramatic "alien" sighting, and UFO flyby, which we now know took place hours apart, I welcome you and others to come and post what you've seen, so we can all benefit from the knowledge!

The odd skipping motion was memorable but fleeting. My entire UFO sighting was just a few seconds. I did find a photo on the net, which looks very close to the object I saw, and posted it to the thread I mentioned above. However, I can only speculate on the sort of propulsion involved.

Perhaps a layer of plasma around the exterior of some of these craft might explain, both their cloudy glow, and the way they slip through the air without a sound. In 1947, Kenneth Arnold described the erratic motion of the UFOs he witnessed. According to him, they resembling a saucer skipped across water.

Sitting in my armchair, I can assure you that UFO activity is on a BIG upsweep!
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 5th, 2008, 4:55pm »

Update!!!

Hello,

Last night DAPS had a small meeting to further the investigation of the humanoid interloper, sighted on January 21st. The level of weirdness in the air at that location was very strong indeed. The original eyewitness of the being repeatedly stated he had the pronounced feeling we were being watched. The man who had drawn the illustration seperately told me he felt something wasn't quite right as we made our way on foot to the exact area under investigation.

As the lead investigator, I downplayed this at the time. But, I really felt something amiss, almost like being grabbed in my gut. An unfocused feeling, that I'd call being creeped out, literally made my hair stand up!

We didn't hang around long after that. As I drove home, the odd feeling of heaviness stayed with me, until I grabbed a cup of coffee at Exxon to shake it off. Heading home, after I parked and got out, the capper of the night happened when I looked into the clear, starry Northern sky, and saw a glowing object suddenly appear, a mile or so away!

The UFO seemed cloudy and indistinct, as it flew by in about a second. I tracked it from my right, going to the North, then downward toward I35 to the East, before vanishing as quick as it first appeared. If you recall, Bob didn't say anything for weeks after initially seeing the being, due to shock, and concern people would disbelieve him. Last night, I felt the same thing for a while, since I previously reported a UFO in the area on January 21th to www.mufon.com.

After careful consideration, I went ahead and filed a report last night anyway, in hopes that someone else in the area may have seen something, too. To my utter dismay, this morning I got an email from Bob, telling me he had also witnessed a strange object in the night sky after he got home, too!

As soon as more details of his sighting are available, I'll file his report, as well. Being the founder of DAPS, I feel it's my obligation to reinterate to people just how important it is to keep our eyes open. Something VERY strange is happening right here, and right now!

As if to underline that, Steve Hudgeons, Chief Investigator of the Texas wing of MUFON, called me a little earlier. Except mentioning Bob's sighting last night, I confirmed the level of weirdness in Denton has escalated dramatically. Steve told me he's very interested in talking to us, but that they've had their hands full with hundreds of cases reported in Texas since January. Irregardless, I coaxed him into coming to the DAPS sponsored Chad Lewis lecture, Saturday, March 15th, 3pm, at the Emily Fowler Library.

Steve remembered meeting me years ago, when I was an active member of MUFON. He even invited me, and any other interested DAPS members to come listen to a talk by Angela Joiner (reporter who broke the Stephenville sightings in January and was fired for her trouble). She will be speaking this coming Sunday afternoon, at 2pm, in the Valley Ranch Public Library. Admission is $8, and therre will be an official update on MUFON's ongoing investigation of the Stephenville sightings.

For more info on the local chapter of MUFON, and their meeting(s), please visit their site - www.mufondfw.org

Last, but not least, Richard, the reporter from www.DFWunderground.org, Michelle, and I were privileged to see a new and improved illustration Todd's drawn, after really grilling Bob on his face to face encounter. Frankly, it's one of the most badass things I've ever seen, far more detailed and startling that his original take on it! After the illustration is copywritten, I hope to see it posted here in the Creature of Copper Canyon discussion forum, so others with their own close calls with denizens of the Shadow World might feel safe enough to come forward.

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« Reply #11 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 3:51pm »

I have a request.

I would like the cordinates on google earth where this happened. And if possible, the exact railroad crossing. I'm sure he should be able to find this since it is a desearted road that I'm assuming he took quite often.

Even better yet the name of the road. This would clearly help the investigation.

To me this looks way too much like the cloverfield monster.
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 4:22pm »

Hello,

You're not the first person to request the exact location, and I'm going to simply pass on what I've been telling others. Namely, this creature sighting case is under investigation, not only by my organization, but by ASUP and MUFON.

That being clearly stated, at this time, the exact whereabouts of the eyewitness sighting cannot be released. However, since this forum is dedicated to all things regarding the humanoid appearance, and UFO sightings, here in the Denton, Texas, as soon as the investigations wrap up, I intend to share the coordinates.

Thanks For Your Interest!


on Mar 6th, 2008, 3:51pm, Escape the Cage wrote:
I have a request.

I would like the cordinates on google earth where this happened. And if possible, the exact railroad crossing. I'm sure he should be able to find this since it is a desearted road that I'm assuming he took quite often.

Even better yet the name of the road. This would clearly help the investigation.

To me this looks way too much like the cloverfield monster.
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 4:26pm »


Lightening the mood, here's a cute email from Amy...


Hi,

Just thought I'd tell you that I have been following your UFO and Alien encounters and recently had a dream about the Copper Canyon alien dude.

In my dream I woke up and saw him standing at the side of my bed. At first I was filled with fear and felt like I was paralyzed. But somehow I was able to muster up enough energy to face him. I popped up out of bed and threw my arms around his waist. Which felt like a rubber balloon filled with stretched out rubber bands. I held on to him and kept thinking I had to keep him for you so that I would have proof of his existence. Moments later I woke up and told my hubby I had had a bad dream and then smiled and went back to sleep.

I just thought I would share my dream with you since it relates to what has been going on with you and your group. Personally I thought it was hilarious.

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xx Re: Creature of Copper Canyon
« Reply #14 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 4:46pm »


After just doing a quick Google search, I found the following report -

"Re: The Creature of Copper Canyon

Posted By: lancifer
Date: 3/2/08 1:59 p.m.

In Response To: The Creature of Copper Canyon *LINK* *PIC* (TNT MadDog)

I saw something like this returning from matsutake (pine mushroom) picking in the far north. It is about a 22 hour drive from Vancouver to Mezziadan Junction which is about 50 miles from the start of the Alaska Highway. We were on Highway 1 about 3 hours out of Vancouver about 2 am. I was listening to Art Bell and driving, my friend was listening and half asleep when I yelled at him to wake up and look! The creature was loping (using its arms to propel itself) just at the edge of my high beams (it was a big truck, a Ford F350).
To the best of my knowledge, there is no loping creature in British Columbia.
It looked a hell of a lot like the creature in that pic."

Thanks,
Lance

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