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U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREAT
Post by ZETAR on Sep 20th, 2012, 01:00am

SOMETHING I RAN ACROSS WHICH CAUGHT MY INTEREST...I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU TO DETERMINE IT'S VALIDITY.

THE ARTICLE STATES THAT THE U.S. AND CHINA HAVE JOINED TOGETHER OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA IN A "JOINT UFO SUPPRESSION MISSION" REGARDING A "HIGHLY UNFRIENDLY EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL THREAT"...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chines...

SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 20th, 2012, 10:22am

"What did the Beagle on the flying doghouse want?"

"Looking for the Church of Scientology. Something about being offended by the way their prophet was portrayed in Prometheus."

"Oh."
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 20th, 2012, 10:25am

A major clue can always be had in the way they establish credibility.

"I have had one implied threat, which is almost laughable as I am a board member of a multinational defense firm larger than most armies."

Yeah, that's as classic a line as I've ever heard.

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by ZETAR on Sep 21st, 2012, 8:11pm

TIM,

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH SCIENTOLOGY...BUT AM QUITE VERSED WITH THE ROSICRUCIANS.

CONSIDERING EARTH WAS ONCE OVER 90% COVERED WITH WATER...LOGIC WOULD POINT TO THE FACT THAT USO'S ARE AN ANCIENT PHENOMENA AND WOULD LEAN TOWARD UNDERWATER BASES FOR SUCH... ARE HIGHLY PROBABLE...IMHO...
THERE ARE MANY INTELLECTS WHOM ASSUME BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING...IT DOESN'T EXIST...
I STEER AWAY FROM SUCH ARROGANCE AS I HAVE SEEN THE CHAGRIN ON MANY A FACES FROM SUCH INTELLECTUAL INSULATION.
CONSIDERING THE CASE FROM THE MISSISSIPPI GULF COAST OF ABDUCTIONS AND PHYSICAL OBSERVATION OF A USO BY U.S.COAST GUARD IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES...I DON'T FIND IT MUCH OF A REACH FOR THE WEST COAST TO NOT HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR AS THERE HAVE BEEN COUNTLESS REPORTS AND OBSERVATIONS OF USO ACTIVITY...SOME INDICATE A POSSIBLE UNDERWATER CAVE WHICH COULD REACH QUITE SOME DISTANCE INLAND...
I THINK THE AREA THIS MARINE RECON MISSION IS IN IS THE SAME AREA OF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA WHERE SUCH CAVE...POSSIBLE BASE IS PURPORTED TO BE.

MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS KNOWN OR OCCURED TO INSINUATE THE THREAT IS HOSTILE...

SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 21st, 2012, 11:32pm

Hi Zetar. You know I'm not that flip. At least I think you do. A little digging made it pretty clear that the person who posted that has a very definite possibility to be full of it. Their boast about being on the corporate board of such an organization became a temptation I couldn't resist as a result.

Oh, that comment about Scientology? Read that post again please. It was an indirect shot at a certain group I'm all worked up about, because they think they're justified to kill ...... over a video? Video? Just a cover. Luvey says Australia had to close a major facility in Pakistan because of this. If it caused you confusion, I apologize. I'm running into so many things trying to track down news that's not being reported that I'm having to make light of something is all. I'm trying to find out what's happening with those three extra carrier task forces in the Gulf. You wouldn't have happened to stumble over a story related to that would you? As seems to be normal these days, our media isn't saying squat.

By the way, a line in that blog, along with what didn't turn up anywhere pertinent after a series of searches has caused me to suspect that blog might have been a dig about the buildup taking place in the Gulf right now.

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by ZETAR on Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:05am

HEY TIM,

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ALL FORCES ARE PREPARING FOR THAT ILLUMINATION CONCEIVED BY ALBERT PIKE...DOLLARS TO DONUTS THAT'S WHAT COMING DOWN THE PIKE...NO PUN INTENDED.

I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT SLEEPING GIANT HAS BEEN AWAKENED THROUGH THE INCESSANT RELIGIOUS SUPREMACY OF A PARTICULAR GROUP...
HOWEVER, TRAGICALLY IT APPEARS THAT OTHERS MAY HAVE BEEN THE CATALYST RATHER THAN THE OBVIOUS TO CREATE WESTERN DISCONTENT...TEXT BOOK SUBVERSION BUT SO MUCH EMOTIONAL OVERTONES... MANY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY RATIONALIZED SUCH MANIPULATIONS...
THOSE PLAYING THIS CHESS GAME ARE COUNTLESS STEPS AHEAD OF THE AVERAGE ANALYST.

ALWAYS A PLEASURE MY FRIEND...

SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by hyundisonata on Sep 22nd, 2012, 04:09am

Hi guys just back for this one post, Zetar if you remember I posted on the multi national fleet assembling in the Arabian sea a year or so back. This fleet headed by the USN consisted of every navy in the world including the so called bad guys such as Iran China and North Korea, at that time I believed it to be an invasion force against ET at the Antarctic but as usual the ridicule merchants had their way. Since that force was assembled the RN bases in the UK went on red alert and still are under the guise of a terrorist attack. What you are seeing now is this fleet in action against a species that is indigenous to this planet who are not a threat to us but are a threat to the alien civilization that is manipulating the worlds governments via the greedy few who seek to retain their power, the hollow earth theory is near truth as these people live deep in the earths crust and are highly civilized well above what we assume as a civilized species such as our self’s. The American navy started this attack with a nuclear explosion that triggered and killed via a tsunami on the Indian coast our own species in a futile attempt against said species. you are right to look in the direction of an under ground entrance on your coast line Zetar but you should remember and realize this is not the beginning of a war with ET but one against a civilization that is older and has more right to this planet than us. Hopefully I will get the basics of the truth near Christmas when I get the chance to talk with someone who was part of this fleet.
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by ZETAR on Sep 22nd, 2012, 04:57am

HEY HYUNDI,

GOOD TO SEE YA BACK...AND YES...THE ILLUSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN GRAND AND THE TRUTH FAR DEEPER THAN THE CREST OF THE WAVE OF PROPAGANDA...

THIS HAS SO MANY LEVELS AND PAWNS...FROM A RELIGIOUS WAR AS SOME SAY...TO A SPIRITUAL WAR ON ANOTHER LEVEL TO AS YOU PROPERLY APPLIED IT TO ...GALACTIC CONFRONTATION...
ALL OF WHICH OVERLAP IN VARYING DEGREES...

MAYBE WE WON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL CHRISTMAS FOR A REPLY...LOL...

SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by hyundisonata on Sep 22nd, 2012, 07:40am

Hi Zetar ICE, I would say your post Zetar is the closest thing on the internet just now as to the truth and has to be defended before it ends up in a corner covered in cobwebs as we see normally happens to posts that border the truth here and on other forums. Far too many are looking up instead of at their feet and lets face it the chance of seeing something unless its in our atmosphere is slim to none, it’s a bit like trying to read the tire size on a formula one racing car as it whizzes by lol, here we are zooming around in circles at thousands of MPH then zooming around the sun and galaxy again at thousands of MPH now unless ET is keeping pace with us you would never know he was there unless you get to use such as NASAs equipment so best place to find ET and those that are in cahoots with them is here on the ground and as we see with your post even at sea it is hard for them to avoid being noticed, the game is well and truly under way lets just hope we are on the winning side.
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by hyundisonata on Sep 22nd, 2012, 07:47am

As for Christmas well clocks are easy to find so we still have a few years going by the ones I use before end game. A good one I am using just now is the MODs plans to house all their eggs in one basket namely RAF Kirknewton that already hosts three battalions underground so no real hurry and if my health holds out I will be sitting down to Christmas dinner as usual.
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 22nd, 2012, 08:02am

on Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:05am, ZETAR wrote:
HEY TIM,

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ALL FORCES ARE PREPARING FOR THAT ILLUMINATION CONCEIVED BY ALBERT PIKE...DOLLARS TO DONUTS THAT'S WHAT COMING DOWN THE PIKE...NO PUN INTENDED.

I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT SLEEPING GIANT HAS BEEN AWAKENED THROUGH THE INCESSANT RELIGIOUS SUPREMACY OF A PARTICULAR GROUP...
HOWEVER, TRAGICALLY IT APPEARS THAT OTHERS MAY HAVE BEEN THE CATALYST RATHER THAN THE OBVIOUS TO CREATE WESTERN DISCONTENT...TEXT BOOK SUBVERSION BUT SO MUCH EMOTIONAL OVERTONES... MANY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY RATIONALIZED SUCH MANIPULATIONS...
THOSE PLAYING THIS CHESS GAME ARE COUNTLESS STEPS AHEAD OF THE AVERAGE ANALYST.

ALWAYS A PLEASURE MY FRIEND...

SHALOM...ZETAR


Hello Zetar. I can't offer any definite answers about the Gulf, because our president keeps shooting so many conflicting messages all over the place. I'll not debate the wisdom of that though, so that I might muddy those waters a bit further. Are you aware of the reports about Turkish Army Officers commanding rebel brigades in Syria? That would be a NATO member actively involved in the war, and we allegedly made an agreement with Russia that we would sidestep Syria if they'd walk the other way while we attacked Libya. Does this sound a bit like Churchill and Stalin dividing up Europe along the lines of the naughty document as Churchill called it during WWII?

Reports leaking out of Russia now imply Putin and Company are ticked because Obama is trying to weasel out of the deal. Which might explain our total of more than 40 warships in the Gulf. We certainly don't need that much of a force to turn Iran into a pile of glowing, green obsidian glass, do we?

By the way, I managed to determine that the report this thread covers is most likely bogus by finding out what's happening with our west coast naval ships that didn't start turning up in the Gulf a few weeks ago. They have all been sitting peacefully at the dock for months. That doesn't match the report, does it?

There is one alarming note though. As soon as China and Japan started making faces at each other, every boat in Bangor was ordered on an extended patrol. Since we're bound by treaty to help Japan defend itself, might this sound a little ominous? A joint US-China attack on hostile ETs would be how preferable to that? It's unfortunate that it appears to not be true.

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by ZETAR on Sep 23rd, 2012, 12:10am

TIM,

I THINK THE TRAGEDY CONCERNING THE CRESCENDO OF THE WAR DRUMS CONSTANT POUNDING IS THE DISTANCE WE ARE FROM THE LAST MAJOR CONFLICT...NOT VIETNAM...NOR KOREA...NOR GRENADA...NOR PANAMA...OR EVEN IRAQ OR THE AFGHANISTAN CONFLICT...BUT ALL OUT WORLD WAR WHERE EACH AND EVERY PERSON WAS REQUIRED TO TAKE PART...CONTRIBUTE ANY METAL FOR MUNITIONS AND HARDWARE...TAPPING ALL AVAILABLE WORKERS BOTH YOUNG AND FEMALE FOR ASSEMBLY OF SUPPORT MATERIAL...THE PERVASIVE THOUGHT THAT IF WE DON'T WIN...LIFE AS WE KNOW IT WOULD COMPLETELY CHANGE.
MANY TODAY ARE ARMCHAIR GENERALS FLIPPING THEIR CHANNEL CHANGER FROM NEWS CYCLE TO NEWS CYCLE WHILE HITTING THE FRIDGE BETWEEN COMMERCIALS....
NO QUESTION TODAY AND VERY SOON IN THE FUTURE...NATURAL RESOURCES ARE AND WILL BE THE PRETEXT FOR WAR...
JAPAN SOUGHT PETROLEUM FROM THE DUTCH ISLANDS IN THE PACIFIC...VERY MUCH LIKE WE SEE TODAY WITH CHINA SQUARING OFF WITH JAPAN AGAIN.
JAPAN WAS A MAJOR POWER ECONOMICALLY AND MILITARILY PRIOR TO WWII...THEY SEEM TO BE TIRED OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTRAINTS...PRIOR TO THEIR EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI THERE WERE MAJOR RUMBLINGS OF SUCH DISCONTENT...BUT I'LL LEAVE THE CONNECTION OF THEIR DISCONTENT AND EARTHQUAKE/TSUNAMI TO OTHERS...YA WONDER WHY THEY HAD SO MUCH NUCLEAR MATERIAL EH?...
LOOK WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR OUR SHARE OF THE ENERGY PIE...
THINK WHAT WILL OCCUR WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE BLUE GOLD...WATER...OR FOOD...YEP THAT MALTHUSIAN PREDICTION....FOOD...WATER...OIL...ETC.
THE REAL TRAGEDY IS THAT THROUGH ALL THE CONFLICTS AND WASTE OF MONEY AND LIFE...THAT WE WHOM SHARE THE SAME AIR...SUN...AND PLANET HAVE FAILED THE REAL TEST OF MAINTAINING SURVIVAL THROUGH A PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE...
WHY AS RONALD REAGAN STATED...OUR DIFFERENCES WOULD VANISH IF WE HAD AN ENEMY FROM BEYOND...NOT THE ACTUAL QUOTE BUT THE GIST...
WHY DOES IT TAKE AN EXTERNAL ENEMY TO UNITE COUNTRY TO COUNTRY....SO MANY CENTURIES OF EVOLUTION AND WE STILL LOOK LIKE THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIE "2001"....

BUT THIS IS A UFO FORUM...AND AS MUCH AS WE FIGHT AND HAVE A GLOBAL HISTORY OF SUCH....WHY WOULD IT BE DIFFERENT FOR SOME GALACTIC SPECIES TO FIGHT OVER THE DOMINATION OF EARTH...
THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF FRACTIONAL DATA INDICATING SUCH...

FROM ALL THE TERRESTRIAL CONFLICT THAT HAS CONSUMMATED THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA....OH...AND YES...THAT WHICH THEY HAVE NEGLECTED TO MENTION WHICH IS VAST....I MUST ASK IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER WHETHER AN UNREPORTED CONFLICT BETWEEN EXTRATERRESTRIAL SPECIES COULD EXIST OR BE TAKING PLACE...

MANY SCIENTISTS FROM THE NAZI REGIME MENTIONED THEY HAD HELP IN THEIR DESIGNS AND CONCEPTS...ALLUDING TO E.T.

SOME MENTION THE U.S.WAS IN CAHOOTS WITH A TRILATERAL GROUP GRANTING THEM UNFETTERED ACCESS TO EARTH AND YEAH...PEOPLE...

WOULD THOSE WHOM HELPED THE NAZI'S BE THE SAME AS THOSE WHOM ALIGN THEMSELVES...SUPPOSEDLY...WITH US ...OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT AND COULD THEY BE IN A CONFLICT...

ALL THIS IS CONJECTURE....HYPOTHETICAL ...BUT FROM BYRD'S VISIT TO ANTARCTICA....WELL...THE LIST IS LONG OF ..."FRACTIONAL"...DATA ALLUDING TO OTHERS BEING ON EARTH OTHER THAN US...
MY QUESTION HAVING ACCEPTING THE PRETENSE THAT WE ARE NOT ALONE...IS/ARE THE POLITICS OF THESE OFF WORLD GROUPS AS COMPLICATED AS OURS AND IF SO...COULD THEIR CONFLICT EXIST RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSE...

WE CAN ALWAYS TURN TO THE MILITARY CHANNEL FOR MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION HISTORICALLY...OF WHAT'S GOING ON GLOBALLY ...BUT FOR GALACTIC GROUPS AND POTENTIAL CONFLICT...I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINION...

HYUNDISONATA...

WELCOME BACK...YOU AND YOUR BROTHER GO WAY BACK ON THIS FORUM...MOREOVER...YOUR NASA CONNECTION AND KNOWLEDGE ON MANY ITEMS KEEPS YOU FROM BEING READILY DISMISSED WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS...
THERE ARE ALWAYS DETRACTORS TRYING TO OSTRACIZE THOSE WHOM SPECULATE SOCRATICALLY WHILE IN THE SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH...OFTEN SAID TRUTH FAILS TO TAKE THE SHAPE WE EXPECT...
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOUR THOUGHTS MY FRIEND...


SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 23rd, 2012, 6:15pm

Hi Zetar;

I'm very well versed in history, so you needn't explain the intricate side of WWII. It wasn't a war as we know one though. You will find no other conflict in known history where the lines of right and wrong are so cleanly drawn.

Everything written proves nothing though. Humans possess awesome cognitive skills. Who solved the atomic issue which escaped the Nazis? Despite rumors to the contrary, we had a budding rocket program called JPL in the 1930s. The difference between us and the Germans in that day are basically two. One, the Germans were so abused by French occupiers after WWI, that they were pushed hard by a desire for revenge. Two, the Germans did have a depleted military which left them desperate, as they were surrounded by mortal enemies who were far more powerful than they. All of that added up to a situation allowing an incompetent despot like Hitler to seize power, as well as a driven people being willing to follow him to ruin. America saved the world in those days, but watching some of that stuff on the military channel will reveal that the Brits want to claim that credit. Some of them at least. But that America is gone today, and only descendents who lack their vision remain in their place.

I also should point out that I don't buy that Highpoint story. It was probably born out of earlier rumors that the Nazis had a large Antarctic Settlement.

Do I believe there is an other worldly conflict in play regarding our world? Yes, I do. Very much so. But I'm not ready to commit to who those parties might be. I'm always wary of any solid conclusions where unknown suspicions are the only known facts. How do you play the fact that there are two regions on our planet where nuclear particle bombardment sites dating to 10,000 BC into all of this? Kind of leaves you groping for a response, does it not? I can't tell you the exact reason that I believe this has a bearing on today, but I do. Something keeps telling me that this is of the highest importance here is the best that I can offer.

I am also starting to suspect that the pyramids date to that era as well. Not all Egyptian monuments, only the pyramids and Sphinx. The Sphinx before some joker had a human head carved on it that is. Ever notice how badly the perspective is off? Egyptians made no such blunders. It might be good to note that no Egyptian paintings and carvings are a constant with them, as well as the fact that no Pharoah was ever found in one too. Egyptology messed up big time here somewhere.

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by ZETAR on Sep 25th, 2012, 02:05am

TIM,

YEAH...TWAS A TIME WHERE ISSUES WERE CLEARLY BLACK OR WHITE...NOT MUCH GREY AREA TO HANG ONES HAT ON.

PRIOR TO HITLER NOT BEING "STRUNG OUT"...HE IN FACT BROUGHT GERMANY BACK FROM ECONOMIC CHAOS.
THIS OF COURSE WAS TEMPERED WITH THE SIGNING OF THE "TREATY OF VERSAILLES".
THE REVENGE YOU SPOKE OF WAS BROUGHT ON BY INK SIGNED IN 1919 WHEREIN GERMANY ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY OF CAUSING THE WAR,DISARMAMENT,TERRITORIAL CONCESSIONS ALONG WITH MASSIVE REPARATIONS TO BE PAID TO THE "ENTANTE" POWERS.
THE TOTAL AMOUNT CAME TO SOME $442 BILLION DOLLARS IN 1919 WHICH WAS INTENDED TO LEAVE GERMANY AS AN INDENTURED COUNTRY.
YEAH, HITLER USED THIS/THESE POINTS THE BOLSTER THE ANIMOSITY AND FURTHER UNITE HIS COUNTRY.
I WENT TO THE PALACE OF VERSAILLES AS A TEENAGER AND WAS/STILL FASCINATED BY IT'S BEAUTY AND HISTORY.
AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS DOCUMENT DIDN'T IMPEDE HITLER IN ANY SHAPE FORM OR FASHION...
THE HUMILIATION ALONG WITH THE OVERTONES OF ARYAN SUPREMACY CATAPULTED GERMANY AND SET THE STAGE FOR WWII.

I MUST DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY OF YOUR POINT THAT ...THAT AMERICA IS GONE...I THINK THAT AMERICA REMAINS FULLY INTACT BUT OUR LEADERS HAVE FAILED TO TAP INTO IT'S VITALITY,CREATIVITY,AND AN AMERICA WHICH IS UNITED AS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES THAT ASPECT OF AN "UNITED" STATES RAN HEAD ON INTO "DEVISIVE" POLITICAL DISCOURSE.

THE HIGHPOINT STORY...I'M NOT SEEING A FOLLOW UP ON THE NEW YORK TIMES IN THE NEAR FUTURE HOWEVER FACTORING THAT WE HAVE A CLANDESTINE RETRIEVAL UNIT SPECIFICALLY FOR LAND BASED (UFO) OBJECTS WHICH HAVE CRASHED...IT'S NOT MUCH OF A LEAP TO CONSIDER THE NAVY AND HER LIKE ABILITY TO RECON AND RETRIEVE.

I ALONG WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE HAPPENED TO SEE A COUPLE OF THE BLACK HELOS IN ACTION POST SIGHTING AND THE FRONT WAS SO LOADED DOWN WITH SEARCH AND IDENTIFY EQUIPMENT...I DIDN'T SEE HOW THEY COULD LEVEL OUT THEIR HORIZON...

HEY...WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN EXPERIENCES THAT LEAD US TO THE CONCLUSIONS ATTAINED.HAVING SAID THAT...SOMETIMES AGREEING TO DISAGREE IS THE MOST RESPECTED THING TO DO.

NOW ON GROPING FOR AN ANSWER...I GROPE FOR NOTHING...GROPING TO ME REMINDS ME OF A BEER SATURATED CONSTRUCTION WORKER AT THE END OF A SCORELESS NIGHT EYEING AND ASSISTING HIS WAITRESS AS SHE IS TRYING TO BUS HIS TABLE.(NOTHING AGAINST CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AS I DID MY SHARE ON THE WAY UP)

NOW HAVING SAID THE ABOVE...THE ANCIENT EXISTENCE OF RADIOLOGICAL MATERIAL HAS BEEN OF INTEREST TO ME.
MY AUNT WORKED AT NASA FOR JUST UNDER THREE DECADES IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT...SENIOR LEGAL COUNSEL...SHE HAD SOME EXTREMELY VALID INSIGHTS ALONG WITH SEVERAL UNIVERSITY BUDS WHOM WERE HIRED FOR THOSE COMPARTMENTALIZED PROJECTS...ONE IN FACT TO THE AGENCY YOU MENTIONED.

ONE THEORY WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED IS THE ASPECT OF NUCLEAR BEING THE TEST THRESHOLD THAT MANKIND HAD DIFFICULTY PASSING.
MANY SAY THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT EXISTS AND AS MAN EVOLVES AND FLEXES HIS MUSCLES...HE HAD LACKED THE MATURITY TO CONTEND WITH SUCH MILITARILY...
SUCH TECHNOLOGY IN IMMATURE HANDS ALWAYS REACHES THAT PINNACLE OF..."MAD"...MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION...
ANCIENT INDIAN TEXT DISCUSSES ALONG WITH "VIMANAS" WEAPONS OF SUCH DESTRUCTION...
BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS OF LOT'S WIFE TOLD TO NOT LOOK BACK AD SUCH WOULD BE BLINDING...
MOREOVER,THERE HAVE BEEN MANY SITES WHICH HAVE BEEN CARBON DATED/RADIOLOGICALLY DATED WHICH GO BACK TO SOME 6,000-10,000 B.C.
ONE ACCOUNT I READ FROM ONE WHOM A SECURITY OFFICER AT "DULCE" WHEN A SPECIFIC BATTLE TOOK PLACE STATED THERE WAS A HISTORY BOOK FOUND THAT DATED BACK SOME 15,000 YEARS B.C. THAT THE CIA KEPT VERY CLOSE TO THEIR CHEST.
NOW FROM THE SPECULATIVE TO STATISTICAL REALITY...FOR THOSE PYRAMIDS MENTIONED AT GIZA TO BE BUILT...IT WOULD BE HARD PRESSED FOR SUCH TO BE BUILT IN THE TWENTY YEAR REIGN ALLOTTED FOR THIS RULER.
I THINK THE MATH COMES OUT TO EACH TWENTY OR THIRTY TON STONE BLOCK WOULD HAVE TO BE PLACED AND SET ONE EVERY EIGHT SECONDS FOR SUCH TO BE COMPLETED IN A TWENTY YEAR SPAN...OF COURSE THIS DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE TIME CUTTING,PREPPING,AND TRANSPORTING SAID BLOCKS AT LEAST ONE HUNDRED MILES TO THE SITE...
YEAH, HISTORY IS SKEWED IN A SPECIFIC WAY...IT'S ALWAYS TAKEN THE CURIOUS AND ANALYTICAL TO OFFER A CONTRASTING VIEWPOINT....
HOPE I HAVEN'T BORED YOU...YEAH EVEN THE MILITARY AND HISTORY CHANNELS HAVE THEIR SKEW...

ONWARD AND UPWARD...

SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 25th, 2012, 06:50am

Hi Zetar;

Yeah, you've got the true cause of WWII pretty well scoped out there. and Ferdinand Foch was allowed to die a war hero, despite being at the very core cause of WWII. Seems the French have gotten away scot free for that, as well as insisting on keeping their old empire, then pulling a cut and run in Vietnam, dumping the entire mess in our lap. I could make a case about their being a large part of today's problems in northern Africa as well, for the very same reason. What did Patton say? "I'd rather have ten German divisions facing me, than one French division backing me." I believe that was it. He lost all respect for them in Morocco for some reason.

Seems were at that apex point of testing once again. After finding that report from the Ohio Valley and Michigan, I no longer question my concept of civilizations lost. It seems all too obvious. Oh, the other worldly influence you mentioned? I forgot to point out that I only see that as advisory at best. Most likely just observers. This is something we've got to get through on our own. And I can respect that.

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by hyundisonata on Sep 28th, 2012, 02:43am

Panetta: Navy Will Invite China to Pacific Rim Exercise
By Karen Parrish
American Forces Press Service
BEIJING, Sept. 18, 2012 – Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and his Chinese counterpart, Defense Minister Gen. Liang Guanglie, told reporters here today they see progress and room for growth in the two nations’ military relationship.
During a news conference following small- and large-group meetings the two attended this morning, Panetta said he informed the general today that “the United States Navy will invite China to send a ship to participate in the RIMPAC [Rim of the Pacific] 2014 exercise.”
The biannual exercise, hosted by the commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, is the world’s largest maritime exercise. It involved 22 nations’ navies this year.
The secretary said he hopes China’s participation in RIMPAC 2014 will build on the positive momentum generated by a counterpiracy exercise the two nations took part in last week in the Gulf of Aden.

“These exercises enhance the ability of our navies to work together to confront the common threat of piracy,” Panetta said.
The secretary said he and Liang also discussed establishing peacekeeping exchanges between the two militaries, which “would enhance our capabilities in this critical area.”
The United States hopes in particular, he added, that through such exchanges “we can learn from China’s experience leading [United Nations] peacekeeping missions in Cyprus and in the Western Sahara”
As the two nations increase cooperation, the secretary said, it’s important for both sides to recognize they won’t always agree.
“The United States continues to be concerned about challenges to maritime security in East Asia,” Panetta said, referring to recent clashes between China and Japan over the Senkaku Islands, known in China as the Diaoyu Islands. In that and other territorial disputes in the Asia-Pacific region, Panetta said, he urges calm and hopes to see the nations involved keep communication channels open so they can resolve their claims peacefully, though diplomacy.
“It’s in no country’s interest for this situation to escalate into conflict that would undermine peace and stability in this very important region,” he added. “This has been my consistent message throughout the week.”
The secretary is midway through an Asia trip that began in Japan and will end later this week with a stop in New Zealand.
Panetta said in discussion with Liang, he also repeated the U.S. desire to have a military-to-military dialogue with China on conduct in cyberspace, which the secretary called a growing economic and security threat.
Finally, Panetta said, he focused during today’s discussions on the U.S. strategic rebalance to the Asia-Pacific region. The United States intends its strategy to add impetus to economic, diplomatic and security interests in the region, which is vital to world trade, the secretary added.
“As I pointed out, a key to that rebalancing is having a constructive relationship with China,” he said.
Liang told reporters during the conference the Chinese government has placed “great value” on Panetta’s visit.
The general confirmed the events on the secretary’s schedule through today: meetings here with Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping, State Councilor Dai Bingguo, who serves in a position roughly equivalent to the U.S. national security advisor; and Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission Xu Caihou.
Liang also confirmed Panetta’s schedule includes visits to the People’s Liberation Army armored engineering college, where the secretary will deliver a speech, and a visit to the eastern port city of Qingdao, where he will meet with the commander of China’s North Sea Fleet.
The general said that in today’s meetings, “we have exchanged ideas and opinions on bilateral and military-to-military relations between our two nations, on international and regional situations, and … other issues of common interest. We have reached some consensus.”
Liang said both sides agreed “solid and steady development of China-U.S. relations is significant to the two countries, the two peoples, and to the entire world.”
Liang said he and Panetta agreed that within the larger picture of relations between the two countries, they must develop a new military-to-military relationship “based on equality, mutual benefit and win-win cooperation.”
He noted there are issues -- including U.S. arms sales to Taiwan, the U.S. rebalancing strategy in the Asia-Pacific region, territorial disputes in the South and East China Sea, cybersecurity and outer space – on which better communication could “reduce suspicions and build trust.”
The general added that discussions with Panetta have been conducted in a “candid, practical and constructive atmosphere.”

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Had the above sent to me , interesting how with today’s technology we cannot even deal with a few pirates in speedboats and have to resort to sending all the worlds navies to stop them and even that seems a failure lol lol. Sorry but you would have to be a mental retard to swallow that bull. Do they honestly expect you to believe that the fifth fleet of one of the world’s supper powers with all its gadgets, helicopters, aircraft and task force cannot deal with a bunch of crooks with a few machine guns? Now if you read between the lines of the above post you can see a glimpse of the truth especially the last paragraph. Over twenty nations all sailing under the American flag headed by the fifth fleet, that’s one heck of a lot of fire power and you, do not need that to take out a few rowing boats. Wake up people there is something big going down and they sure as hell do not want you to know what it is until its time to kiss your butt goodbye.

Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 28th, 2012, 1:45pm

Hyundi, it seems you've taken what I told you in our discussion a few months back much further than to heart. No longer are you speculating about what you've found, but have pounded out the logic behind the research. I must say good job to that, but I should add that you might take this just a bit further. Do you sense another drop kick to the Stone Age upcoming?

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by hyundisonata on Sep 28th, 2012, 2:31pm

I have great respect for your integrity and intelligence ICE so I did listen and learn from you, going by our last correspondence I would positively say yes. The clock is ticking.
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by ZETAR on Sep 28th, 2012, 4:36pm

HYUNDI,

I TRIED IN VAIN TO POST A LINK TO AN ARTICLE WHICH TOUCHED ON MANY ASPECTS OF WHAT YOU AND I HAVE ADDRESSED.

I SAW THIS ARTICLE SOMETIME BACK BUT IT WAS IN RUSSIAN...I WAS RESEARCHING SOME THINGS LAST NIGHT...TAKING A BREAK FROM WRITING AND ARRANGING SOME MUSIC...BUT NEVERTHELESS,...I SAW WHERE THIS ARTICLE HAD BEEN TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH...MERELY TEXT BUT QUITE INFORMATIVE...

I POSTED THE LINK SEVERAL WAYS AND COULDN'T GET IT TO ENGAGE..
THE TOPIC IS:
"FIRST RELEASE OF FULLY TRANSLATED RUSSIAN ANTARCTIC DOCUMENTARY THIRD REICH-OPERATION UFO (NAZI BASE IN ANTARCTIC) COMPLETE DOCUMENTARY"

THE LINK ALTHOUGH I'VE POSTED AS LISTED...DOESN'T WORK...OR RATHER MY DASHES/HYPHENS BECOME PERCENT SIGNS FOR THE LINK AND CLEARLY THIS HAS A DIRECT AFFECT...

THE LINK:
http://ufohunterorguk.com/2012/09/26/third-reich-operati

I ALSO RAN ACROSS ANOTHER INTERESTING TID-BIT WHEREIN AFTER TWO DECADES OF DRILLING AN UNDERWATER LAKE WAS DISCOVERED WHICH BY THEIR ESTIMATE WAS TWENTY MILLION YEARS OLD.
THEY MENTIONED THAT THEIR WORK SITE IS NEAR WHERE HITLER ALLEGEDLY HAD A BUNKER BUILT FOR MANY OF HIS CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS...
I POSTED THIS AS THEIR MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CONNECTION OF THE GERMAN SUBMARINERS AND THE POTENTIAL THEY MAY HAVE FOUND SOME INCLINE OR CAVERN WHERE A GATEWAY TO SUCH LAKE OR OTHER LAKES EXISTS...

THE TOPIC:
LAKE VOSTOK:RUSSIAN SCIENTIST CONFIRM TRIUMPH AS DRILLING...

THE LINK:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095193/lake-vo

I POSTED BOTH THE TOPIC AND LINK IN THE EVENT THAT SAID LINK FAILS TO WORK AND A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH WILL PROVIDE A WAY TO THE POST...

SORRY FOR THE EXTRA TYPING BUT IF SOMEONE CAN DETERMINE WHY IT FAILS TO WORK...ANY CONSTRUCTIVE ASSISTANCE WILL BE MOST APPRECIATED...

YEAH HYUNDI...I HOPE YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE THE VIDEO ATTRIBUTED TO THE FIRST LINK...I THINK YOU'LL LIKE IT...

SHALOM...ZETAR

EDIT TO ADD:
I SEE THE FIRST LINK WORKS...SO COOL...

THE SECOND LINK DOESN'T GO TO THE SPECIFIC PAGE SO A GOOGLE SEARCH WILL PULL IT UP AND WELL WORTH THE READ...
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Sep 28th, 2012, 4:52pm

Well I thank you for the kind words Hyundi, but all I did was find some interesting information that sounds suspiciously like proof of some concept, which I showed you. The rest you have accomplished yourself.

As much as I hate to do so, I'm forced to agree with your ticking clock concept. Things be happening, unless somebody can get it stopped.

Of course you're aware you live in the middle of a major powder keg?

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by philliman on Sep 29th, 2012, 12:58pm

Ah, yeah, Gordon Duff from veteranstoday.com is at it again. The guy who provided us his "outstanding picture analysis" (to be clear here, this is irony!) in order to convince us that an object which allegedly has been filmed over South Korea is a flying saucer. Too bad that he failed to recognize that the whole video was CGI. So much about his ability to provide a proper picture analysis.

His latest article is about Mitt Romney allegedly being responsible for the Mohammed-video which caused the recent protests and violence in the Middle East. His source? A youtube video which shows Romney talking to an audience. As if someone would openly talk about something like that if he would really have such a sinister plan. rolleyes

And now this. So from where exactly does he know that they try to fend of aliens? He doesn't tell. Oh, of course it's because of protecting him and his sources. As if he wouldn't have been already taken for questioning in order to know who his sources are if this all would be real. Indeed he offers zero answers about where he does have his information from. Think about that for a moment. It's a common pattern some bs-artists use. Throw people a bone and let them connect the dots by themselves. Nothing easier than that. Saw that many times and it works very well since many conspiracy theorists are just all too quick to do all that.

So there is allegedly a maneuver of a fleet consisting of several ships from several different countries. So what?! Nato and other alliances do this quite often. Allegedly our jets were unable to cause damage to UFOs nor that they were able to bring them down, so why would a ship be able to do that?! Doesn't sound logical to me. IMO Gordon Duff is the next Michael Cohen or Alfred Webre. He is a highly questionable source who I can't trust.
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by UPBOB on Sep 29th, 2012, 2:33pm

ICE, About your question of if we are about to be drop kicked back to the stone age. I just finished reading Whitley Srieber's book "The Key"". In his conversation with an entity he calls The Master of the Key, the entity says that very soon that is exactly what will happen to mankind, if we do not learn to advance as a race. I am still processing ,mentally, what was in that book but it strikes me as quite likely in view of climate change predictions and other catastrophic predictions.
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Oct 1st, 2012, 5:00pm

on Sep 29th, 2012, 2:33pm, UPBOB wrote:
ICE, About your question of if we are about to be drop kicked back to the stone age. I just finished reading Whitley Srieber's book "The Key"". In his conversation with an entity he calls The Master of the Key, the entity says that very soon that is exactly what will happen to mankind, if we do not learn to advance as a race. I am still processing ,mentally, what was in that book but it strikes me as quite likely in view of climate change predictions and other catastrophic predictions.


And once again we'll do it to ourselves Upbob. Just like before ....

Tim
Re: U.S. & CHINA JOIN FORCES TO FEND OFF UFO THREA
Post by icepick on Oct 1st, 2012, 5:02pm

Thanks for the insight Philliman. As if we don't have enough problems ........... a loose cannon fruit loop like that running around.

Tim